Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Hello and welcome to TSF birdman101 :wave:

Can you please download SIW from my signature, and go to hardware then sensors. Record your temperatures for all your components while idle, then while in-game for around 10 minutes. I feel this is simply a overheating issue.

You also want to try downloading and installing the AMD Dual-core Optimizer.

I would just like to throw in, I believe a Geforce 9100 is integrated. Therefore, it isn't as powerful as a dedicated card. I think you should consider upgrading but it would cost a couple of bucks. I personally find your computer a little werid, to have some much ram and then "wimp" out on other hardware components. Please take your temperatures like mentioned before, and we will proceed further.

Of course it you would like to upgrade, we will need to know your PSU specs. I doubt it can handle a dedicated PCI-e card.

To find out the PSU simply open the side of the computer and look for the boxy component. It should have a sticker on the side, copy the following information:

Brand
Model
Size (Watts)
Number of amps on 12vrail(s)

Zealex.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Idle (Mostly, anyways).

Sensor Value Min Max
BIRDMAN-PC
Fintek F8000
Voltages
VIN0 1.68 V 1.68 V 1.68 V
VIN1 1.70 V 1.70 V 1.70 V
VIN2 1.61 V 1.61 V 1.61 V
Temperatures
TMPIN0 49 °C (120 °F) 49 °C (120 °F) 50 °C (121 °F)
TMPIN2 35 °C (94 °F) 35 °C (94 °F) 37 °C (98 °F)
Fans
FANIN0 1840 RPM 1840 RPM 1858 RPM
FANIN1 1195 RPM 1191 RPM 1222 RPM
AMD Athlon 7550
Temperatures
Core #0 34 °C (93 °F) 34 °C (92 °F) 36 °C (95 °F)
Core #1 34 °C (93 °F) 34 °C (92 °F) 36 °C (95 °F)
Powers
Processor 98.05 W 98.05 W 98.05 W
NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Temperatures
GPU Core 109 °C (228 °F) 108 °C (226 °F) 109 °C (228 °F)
ST375052 8AS
Temperatures
Assembly 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F)
Air Flow 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F)


After the slow down occurred.

Sensor Value Min Max
BIRDMAN-PC
Fintek F8000
Voltages
VIN0 1.68 V 1.68 V 1.68 V
VIN1 1.69 V 1.69 V 1.70 V
VIN2 1.61 V 1.61 V 1.61 V
Temperatures
TMPIN0 52 °C (125 °F) 49 °C (120 °F) 53 °C (127 °F)
TMPIN2 41 °C (105 °F) 35 °C (94 °F) 46 °C (114 °F)
Fans
FANIN0 1867 RPM 1831 RPM 1867 RPM
FANIN1 1197 RPM 1189 RPM 1224 RPM
AMD Athlon 7550
Temperatures
Core #0 41 °C (104 °F) 34 °C (92 °F) 44 °C (111 °F)
Core #1 41 °C (104 °F) 34 °C (92 °F) 44 °C (111 °F)
Powers
Processor 98.05 W 98.05 W 98.05 W
NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Temperatures
GPU Core 122 °C (251 °F) 108 °C (226 °F) 126 °C (258 °F)
ST375052 8AS
Temperatures
Assembly 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F)
Air Flow 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F) 31 °C (87 °F)


Thanks for the warm welcome and advice! I should have checked for overheating. What do these temperatures say to you?

Yes, my card is integrated. I haven't touched the hardware in this machine. It was five hundred something dollars, so I figured that was a pretty good deal for those specs. The 9100 isn't bad though, from what I've read, only a few models under state of the art. How much is a "couple of bucks" for an upgrade, though? I still may consider it.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Alright you are going to need to dust your rig. Here is the main reason, and I was expecting this.

Temperatures
GPU Core 109 °C (228 °F) 108 °C (226 °F) 109 °C (228 °F)

Temperatures
GPU Core 122 °C (251 °F) 108 °C (226 °F) 126 °C (258 °F)

That is VERY dangerous! You are literally frying your chip. First thing you need to do is buy a can of air ASAP and clean your computer, should bring it down. A integrated chip will never have the sheer power of a dedicated card.

The 9100 lacks a fan I believe, so I think that is a good reason to why it's so dang high.

Make sure there is open airflow in the case.

For the upgraded, how much you looking forward to spend? I don't think you should game on integrated chips, they were not designed for games. They were made for "office" use.

How many fans you got?

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Wow! Thanks a bunch. I'll air out the fans for sure. Do you have any other suggestions for keeping it from overheating?

For a graphics card? Well, truth be told, I'm not looking to spend any money at ALL :tongue: . What would you suggest for a cheap skate who's starting to enjoy PC gaming again?

Thanks again! You're a real help.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Well, you are going to have monitor your temperature for your GPU. Should be no more than 75c when under load. I would really consider getting a new card. Tell me how to dusting goes.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Well, I turned off the computer, took the side off, and dusted the fans with compressed air. Yeah, it was really DAMN dusty. Flew into my face. I'm going to move the tower to the other side of my monitor as soon as I can. It's facing a corner, currently.
I'm keeping the side off currently. After turning the machine back on, the maximum temperature of my graphics card was 74 degrees Celsius. You were right on the money!

Now, is it safe to game on this thing?

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Is it idle when at 74c? I would try dusting it a bit more, unless you got all the dust out. Make sure you dust around once a month. If it's idleing at 74c, it should be quite high when gaming I would say 80c should be the highest for the the chip, but cards differ in max temperatures. I strongly recommend getting a dedicated card to be honest.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Okay. What card would you suggest? Cheaper is preferable.
And is there anything else I can do that might lower the risk of overheating?

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

More fans, open airflow.

Don't stress the card too much, if it's at such a high temp. Hotter temperature = Lower lifespan of the hardware.

I like this card,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121352&cm_re=9800gt-_-14-121-352-_-Product

You will need a new PSU such as this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...uct/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&cm_re=650w_corsair-_-17-139-005-_-Product

You could possibly use your current PSU but I highly doubt it. Can you give me the specs of it for me.

To find out the PSU simply open the side of the computer and look for the boxy component. It should have a sticker on the side, copy the following information:

Brand
Model
Size (Watts)
Number of amps on 12vrail(s)

You could spend a little more and get a dx11 ati card, but an 9800 gt should suffice. It's on par with the 4850 I believe, and with rebate its 74.99! A 5770 is a great card and worth the price, it's quite popular as well.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Brand: LITEON
Model: PS-5301-08HA
Size: It says the DC Output is 300 Watts. Is that the size?
Amps: On +12 it's 19 amps, on -12 it's .8 amps.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

With a total of 300 amps, and 19 amps on the 12v rail. The PSU cannot properly handle a PCI-e card.

What games are you intending to play anyways?

Make sure you grabbed the AMD dual core optimizer:
http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/dyn...ages/dynamicDetails.aspx?ListID=c5cd2c08-1432-4756-aafa-4d9dc646342f&ItemID=153

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Right now, I'm playing through Half Life 2 again, as I said earlier. I mean, I play stuff like Deus Ex and System Shock, but that's not exactly a strain on the system, y'know? Probably the most graphics intensive games I've got going on are the HL2's and the STALKER games.

If I start getting more recent stuff, then yeah, I'm definitely upgrading. What would you say for stuff like that, though?

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

If you can run it on the geforce 9100 then go for it, but make sure to monitor your temps and anything above 80c for the GPU is too high.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Awesome. Thank you so much, Zealex!
I'll take all this under advisement, and check out a new chip and power supply when I have, well, money .

I was not expecting such promptness and accuracy from an online forum. You guys are fantastic!

Thanks again, and I'll be sure and come back if I need more help on this matter.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

Haha, no problem. Why not stay around? You may be interested in the offline section, when you have the funds available don't hesitate to post and somebody will get to you. Make sure to monitor your GPU temps. Also be cautious about your other temps, 30-40c for the CPU idle, and 60 max for it under-load. HDD should be around 30c, 40c is pushing it when under-load.

Please mark this thread as solved, if you ever need anything relating to this just post back and I or somebody else will get to you as soon as possible.

Zealex.

P.S. Maybe in the future you may want to even build your own rig. Prebuilts aren't great. Looking at your computer, 500 bucks wasn't a great deal for it to be honest. You will never use 8gb ram, heck 4gb's is more than enough for the average user.

 

Re: Game slows down after a few minutes of play

I may just stick around, come to think of it.

Erm, this is rather embarrassing, but how do I mark the thread as solved?

 

Never mind.

 

Sorry, I should have told you how to do that. It's pretty late, so forgive me for forgetting that. Seems like you figured out anyways though =).

Yeah make sure to monitor your temperatures, and feel free to post back here if something else comes back.

Zealex.