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Samsung N150 Plus Replacement Drive and Reinstall

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#1 ·
My brother passed me his old 2011 Win7 starter Notebook some months ago after replacing it with a Chromebook. He had, for the mostpart, removed all his personal files and (although he doesn't remember doing so) taken advantage of the available upgrade to WIN10.

Booting was taking a long time, reminiscent of the days when you felt that you needed to press the power on button before heading out into the workplace, grabbing a coffee and having a chat with colleagues before heading back to see if it was up and running yet.

I had been toying with the idea of replacing the hard drive with an ssd for months, to see if it would make my Win10 experience more pleasurable.
Gathering various bits of information on where I might find and extract the product key, not all of which were fruitful, I finally extracted the key using Regedit.


I replaced the hdd with a similar sized ssd and rebooted the notebook using my WIN10 media installation USB.
First indication of problems was when I wanted to resize to 80GB and create a 2nd partition.
Whilst the box accepted my writing the 8 to start writing the 80000 size I wanted, every time I hit 0 it responded with invalid character.
To cut a long story short, I bypassed the procedure and continued to install without resizing.
It then asked for the Windows Product Code I had extracted but did not have to hand. I was of the impression that I could write it later after installation but was sadly disappointed. I was refused installation until I aborted, rebooted to the old drive and extracted the number to a handy sheet of paper.
I started over, I got as far as inserting the code but found that when trying to type that the characters being shown were nonsensicle. I clicked on a keyboard icon that brought up an onscreen keyboard so that I could type the correct characters.
After managing to insert the first set of digits, I found the box was hidden by the onscreen keyboard, and the only way I saw to verify that the code had been written correctly was to minimise it or close it. Saw no minimise screen control, so I closed it and verified that I was seeing the correct characters. Clicking the onscreen keyboard icon no longer brought forth the onscreen keyboard, so I aborted again, added a usb keyboard and started over.
Again the notebook keyboard failed to give correct characters but the usb worked fine.
Finally Win10 was installed but I had to keep the USB keyboard connected. Device Manager showed everything OK except for a video controller.

Searching the internet the last 2 days brought forth that the keyboard might be fixed by Samsung settings app or even the extended settings app. But I was unable to derive a package name that might be downloaded.

I thought to extract the drivers from the original disk and the official Recovery App that would create a media installation tool purely for this Samsung Notebook. However, that idea was quickly quashed with a response that it could not proceed because "files were missing".

Currently, unless I find a "fix" to allow the keyboard to work correctly, I only see one viable way to put Win10 on the ssd ... and that is by cloning the 2 drives. I was thinking of putting a Linux distro, but if I have this weird problem with Windows, what chance is there that a Linux distro might work. Wandering around with a keyboard in tow is not going to happen.

Anyone have any ideas ? Experience ? Workaround ...
 
#4 ·
Thanks Corday ... I was ready to respond with "But there is no numlock on the keyboard" But just in case it was hidden somewhere ... I Googled it and got the response

AI Overview

On a Samsung N150 Plus, Num Lock toggles the right side letter keys (U, I, O, J, K, L, etc.) to function as a numeric keypad. To use these keys for their normal letter functions, you need to disable Num Lock. This is usually achieved by pressing the Fn key and Num Lock key (often F11) simultaneously.
So I tried what it said and it worked ... there appears to be no key nor any indicator ... and to make matters worse I had ignored a lot of videos because I was convinced that the problem was some weird driver related problem ...

@MPR .. CMOS Battery is good since I had removed the normal battery some time back .. and date /time was still correct.
Also I had been using the laptop to make notes etc, remove unwanted apps and clean up stuff that my brother hadn't found to remove ... and each time I swapped back the original drive, everything was working normally ...

The good news is that whilst chasing around trying to find ways to extract drivers, make adjustments and stuff I found a lot of switches to be played with to reduce bloat ... even stop Cortana from using microphone and audio for commands, reading messages aloud ... things I don't need ... which I believe are all there to deter the general public from learning too much about how their devices work.
I have removed all that shortcut clutter from the desktop when it opens ... same from firefox, Edge is no longer default browser ... and I no longer have to suffer bing .. its still too slow though ... wonder what will happen when I do an update .. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
#3 ·
How long has it been since the CMOS battery was replaced? Also, does the Windows language setting match the keyboard characters? The notebook's keyboard may have developed a fault too. I have to get a new keyboard for my PC every five years or so, and I don't buy especially "cheap" ones either.
 
#5 ·
Additionally, just in case the problem returns because of a default setting in BIOS

AI Overview

To ensure the NumLock key is off by default on a Samsung N150 Plus, you'll need to access the BIOS settings during startup and change the NumLock state. Specifically, you'll need to enter the BIOS, navigate to the boot options, locate the NumLock setting, and change it to "off" or "disabled".
 
#7 ·
Glad you sorted the NUMLK situation.
You do not need to type in the Windows product key during setup. When it asks for the key, there is a link at the bottom I do not have a product key.

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You can type your product key after installation to Activate, by pressing the Windows key + I in Settings/Update & Security/Activation here you can type in the Product key.
 
#8 ·
You do not need to type in the Windows product key during setup. When it asks for the key, there is a link at the bottom I do not have a product key.

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In fact, The setup wizard specifically instructs you to select this option if you are reinstalling the same edition of Windows and tells you that your install will then be automatically activated at a later time. I can't begin to count how many times I've searched my paper documentation for a product key before reinstalling Windows because I never bothered to actually read the on-screen instructions. :LOL: