XXClone missing IDE1

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zemdarin

Discussion Starter · Jan 30, 2007

Hi everybody I am new here and could not find out how to introduce myself in the introduction forum. I couldn't find the make new thread even after reading the instructions. That sounds great doesn't it.

My question is I have just cloned my C:\ drive successfully to an active drive on my D:\ drive using XXClone. What I can't do in the BIOS is select IDE1 because it isn't showing. I know it works though because I disconnected my C:\ drive and made the D:\ drive the main drive and it worked great.

What I have in my BIOS when trying to select IDE1 is only Floppy, IDE0 CDROM and something USB-RMD-FDD. Could that be because I have an External drive connected. Some advice would be appreciated please.

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JohnthePilot

· #2 · Jan 30, 2007

Hi Zendarin. I wrote the guide using Award BIOS. I'm not sure that AMI BIOS allows you to specify HDD1 as the boot drive, but I'm sure someone out there will correct me if I'm wrong:grin: The only reason for booting from the D:\ drive is to check that it has cloned properly. If you've changed your drives over and it's booted OK then problem solved. If not, then you'll just have to change them back again. As yours seemed to have worked (and I had no doubt it would) you can now decide whether to keep this new drive as your C:\ drive or swap it back and keep it as a backup. If you decide to keep it as your main drive it's worth keeping you old C:\ drive (now your D:\ drive) as a backup in case your C:\ drive fails and I can assure you they do.
Regards,
Pilot.

robert diggs

· #3 · Jan 30, 2007

Hey,

Let me see if I understand this... you have two different hard drives and you made a copy of your first drive (c:/ as you call it) and you put it on your second drive (d:/ as you call it)? To my knowledge, I believe you have to burn a DVD of the ISO image you created and you have to boot from that to install it on that new drive (I'm not 100% confident in that information, If I'm wrong please somebody correct me). *Now, let's assume I'm wrong about what I just said or that you've got it correctly installed on the new drive.*
Now, check the jumpers on your hard drives make sure they're in the correct places. On typical IDE cables, one end goes into the motherboard, next in line is IDE1 (slave) and the last one is IDE0 (master). Make sure your jumpers go in line with the cable, don't transpose them. If all looks well with that, then your BIOS should have an option to boot from HDD0 or HDD1. Select the one you want to boot from at that point in time.

Now, here is the second scenario I see if I'm incorrect in my first assumption. You only have ONE hard drive but two partitions. You backed up your C:/ drive and you back it up to your D:/. Someone naive enough could do this and want to boot from it, which is possible, but you don't want to do it if you have a failing drive. However, if your drive is not failing and you want to boot from it, it has to be a primary partition and it HAS TO BE MARKED AS ACTIVE to boot from it. Here is an article directly from Microsoft on how to set a partition as active:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315261
let us know if that does the trick for you.

Regards,

Brandon

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kodi

· #4 · Jan 30, 2007

In your BIOS there is usually a list of boot order devices E.G 1st boot device, 2nd boot device, then other boot device this is the one you want you may have to disable the other devices in the boot order

JohnthePilot

· #5 · Jan 30, 2007

Hi Robert.

robert diggs said:
Hey,

Let me see if I understand this... you have two different hard drives and you made a copy of your first drive (c:/ as you call it) and you put it on your second drive (d:/ as you call it)? To my knowledge, I believe you have to burn a DVD of the ISO image you created and you have to boot from that to install it on that new drive (I'm not 100% confident in that information, If I'm wrong please somebody correct me).

Yes, you have got it wrong I'm afraid. Click on the how to copy your OS drive and read my article.

If all looks well with that, then your BIOS should have an option to boot from HDD0 or HDD1. Select the one you want to boot from at that point in time.

That's certainly the case in Award BIOS, but I'm not sure about AMI BIOS

Now, here is the second scenario I see if I'm incorrect in my first assumption. You only have ONE hard drive but two partitions. You backed up your C:/ drive and you back it up to your D:/. Someone naive enough could do this and want to boot from it, which is possible, but you don't want to do it if you have a failing drive. However, if your drive is not failing and you want to boot from it, it has to be a primary partition and it HAS TO BE MARKED AS ACTIVE to boot from it. Here is an article directly from Microsoft on how to set a partition as active:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315261
let us know if that does the trick for you.

As far as I know, the OP has two drives so this is not relevant, but I take your point.

Pilot.

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robert diggs

· #6 · Jan 30, 2007 (Edited)

What does OP stand for? I've thought about it and the only thing that comes to mind is O.P.P by Naughty by Nature. *edit* Thanks for the link on cloning Pilot, informative.

Regards,

Brandon

JohnthePilot

· #7 · Jan 30, 2007

robert diggs said:
What does OP stand for?

Original Poster. Zemdarin in this case.:smile:

Thanks for the link on cloning Pilot, informative.

Give it a try. It's a very useful backup procedure.

Regards,
Pilot.

zemdarin

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 30, 2007 (Edited)

Thank you for all your replies and most things you say are welcome. I do have three hard Drives one being external and I know the cloned drive works because I have tested it OK. The slave is all cabled exactly right and jumpers are correct. The slave is partitioned into two parts and made active to except the cloning.

I also know at one point in my BIOS there was an option to boot from HDD0 and HDD1 but now the HDD1 isn't there anymore. I do know how to change the priorities for booting as I have taught people I help.

The booting sequence I have in the BIOS is only from these changes Floppy/ CDROM/HDD0/USB-RMD-FDD and it is that last one that I am not familiar with.

I most probably will just have the slave as my back-up because I only made the partition 10GB for the OS. But to have confidence in a program I need to know it will boot without going inside to change the jumpers.

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robert diggs

· #9 · Jan 30, 2007

You're saying BIOS recognized the drive before the backup... it's possible that the secondary IDE controller crapped out on you. I've seen it happen. If you don't mind spending the money, or you might know someone who has one, see if you can get a PCI IDE adapter. Hook up the drive to that and see if it'll boot from that. That would be a good indication of a bad IDE controller. Someone on here may know of a diagnostic tool that can test for IDE controllers. Alternately, you can do a search for it.

Regards,

Brandon

zemdarin

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 30, 2007 (Edited)

Hi Brandon it recognised the drive the first time I cloned it, but I couldn't get it to boot from HDD1 and I never went into my computer to change the jumpers to test it, so I reformatted and started again. It is this second time I can't find HDD1 but at least I know it works. Do you think a new cable might help?

I can see the slave drive D & E on my computer OK though.

robert diggs

· #11 · Jan 30, 2007

Hey,

I didn't think of the cable, but that certainly could be the culprit. My thinking is, if BIOS is recognizing the controller or the drive on that controller, it's most likely the controller being fried. Try the thing with the PCI IDE adapter.

Regards,

Brandon

zemdarin

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 30, 2007

Thanks Brandon I will give it a try and let you know.

zemdarin

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 31, 2007

I have solved my problem and you don't know how simple it was. I always by-passed the Standard CMOS set-up and went straight in the bios set-up. This time I looked there first and found my slave drive disabled. All I had to do was change it to eid1 save and exit and blow me down I was able to boot into the cloned drive. :1angel: I love XXClone the easiest of any I have ever tried. Thank you all for the advice and help given I really appreciated it.

Barry

robert diggs

· #14 · Jan 31, 2007

Hey,

Glad you got your problem fixed. I hereby declare anyone that fixes their own problem after services have been rendered by the volunteers that the OP will pay $20 to each person who offered a legitimate solution. lol, JK.

Regards,

Brandon

zemdarin

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jan 31, 2007

Thanks for that information Brandon. Dollars what are they? Good job you said that though it could have been ££££ and that would be catastrophic to my pensioner budget. :laugh:

JohnthePilot

· #16 · Jan 31, 2007

zemdarin said:
Thanks for that information Brandon. Dollars what are they? Good job you said that though it could have been ££££ and that would be catastrophic to my pensioner budget. :laugh:

Ignore Brandon. A small donation to TSF will suffice :grin:

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