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i have 2 pcs running windows xp pro and a simple network cable consisting of 1 x rj45 x over and then to extend the cable past the stairs 1 x patch cable problem being i cannot get the pcs to see each other ... this worked previously under windows 98.


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Under W98 you had options to use networking protocols other than TCP/IP. If you were setup with one of the others, the uograde to XP probably wasn't able to create the new network configuration.

The cabling should be OK - it worked with 98, so it will work with XP.

Decide if one of your PC's will have a connection to the internet.
This PC will be setup as the internet connection PC, and XP's wizard will give it a fixed IP address - usually 192.168.0.1 . Either way the PC that has the shared internet connection needs to have an IP address of 192.168.0.1 (details on how to do this are below).

The second PC will get an internet connection from the first PC.

As you only have 2 PC's it is easier to have both PC's with fixed IP's (as opposed to having IP addresses provided automatically).

Go to your first PC - the one designated as the internet connection PC.

In Start - Settings- Network Connections, right click on Local Area Connection
Select properties
Under the general tab you have the actual network interface card (NIC) at the top and the protocols at the bottom.
First check the NIC
Click Configure at the top

Under the General tab, it should say that this device is working properly.
(If not then your NIC is not setup - it should be because XP usually recognizes cards and loads the appropriate drivers). Click OK.

Re-open the properties.
In the lower section, you should have three entries:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).

If not - use the Install button to install anything that is missing.
Check the Show Icon ... box if you want an Icon on the taskbar showing network activity.

Now click on Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click on properties
If Obtain an IP address automatically is selected, select Use the following IP address instead.

The IP address should be 192.168.0.1 (for the first PC with direct internet access)
Click on subnet mask, and it should automatically fill with 255.255.255.0
As this PC will provide your 'gateway' to the internet, the Default gateway field can be left blank.
Also the two DNS server fields can be blank

Click on the Advanced Tab
The IP settings tab will show the IP address and mask you just entered.
The DNS tab will have a blank for DNS server addresses
and select Append primary and connection specific DNS suffixes, and the check box below for append parent suffixes.
Lower down, check Register this connections addresses in DNS.
Nothing else is checked
Now go to the WINS tab. Only select the enable NETBIOS over TCP/IP
You shouldn't have to worry about the Options tab

Now OK your way out of the boxes and Close the properties box.
Restart your PC

Now check that all is OK on this PC.

In Start - Settings- Network Connections, right click on Local Area Connection
Select Status
On the Support tab click on Details
You should have:
A physical address - a set of 6 pairs of characters with hyphens. If you have all zeros, then that will have to be corrected, but it is unlikely to be zeros (this address is a hard or physical address of your NIC. The first part of the number is a manufacturer code and the second part is product specific. Record the number, because you need to be sure that your other PC has a different physical address.

You will have the IP address 192.168.0.1 and the mask 255.255.255.0
The gateway, DNS and WINS entries should be blank.

Now Right click My Computer and under Computer Name make sure your PC has a name and is in a workgroup. Use Change if necessary. Note the Workgroup name.

Restart your PC.

Now for the second PC
The same procedure applies, but this PC will need a different IP address - 192.168.0.2 will do

Under the General tab, it should say that this device is working properly. Click OK.

Re-open the properties.
In the lower section, you should have three entries:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).

If not - use the Install button to install anything that is missing.
Click the show icon box if required.

Now click on Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click on properties
If Obtain an IP address automatically is selected, select Use the following IP address instead.

The IP address should be 192.168.0.2
Click on subnet mask, and it should automatically fill with 255.255.255.0
As this PC needs to find your gateway to the internet, you will need to fill out the default gateway with the IP address of your first PC 192.168.0.1
Also use this address for the preferred DNS server

Click on the Advanced Tab
The IP settings tab will show the IP address and mask you just entered and the default gateway.
The DNS tab will have 192.168.0.1 for DNS server addresses. If not use Add and enter it. If there are any other addresses remove them.
and select Append primary and connection specific DNS suffixes, and the check box below for append parent suffixes.
Lower down, check Register this connections addresses in DNS.
Nothing else is checked
Now go to the WINS tab. Only select the enable NETBIOS over TCP/IP
You shouldn't have to worry about the Options tab

Now OK your way out of the boxes and Close the properties box.
Restart your PC

Now check that all is OK on this PC.

In Start - Settings- Network Connections, right click on Local Area Connection
Select Status
On the Support tab click on Details
You should have:
A physical address - (a set of 6 pairs of characters with hyphens). Check that the number is different to your first PC. If they are the same then some registry editing will be called for.

You will have the IP address 192.168.0.2 and the mask 255.255.255.0
The gateway and DNS addresses should be 192.168.0.1
and the WINS entries should be blank.

Now Right click My Computer and under Computer Name make sure your PC has a name - different to the first PC and is in the same workgroup as the first. Use Change if necessary.

Restart your PC.

At this point you should be able see each machine from the other, using My Network places.

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If this is OK, then start sharing some folders between the PC's as required.
You may find it helpfull to setup the same user names and passwords on both PC's. This simplifies working between the two PC's as the logon name and passwords are recognized on both ends of te connection. (Not essential as XP will ask for user name and password for folders that are shared, if you have set passwords for the shares).

Internet explorer on the first machine should work OK.

On the second machine, open Internet Explorer, and select Tools - Internet Options
On the Connections tab, select never dial a connection (as the connection will come from the first PC).

If you decide that both PC's will have a modem and access the internet separately, then use 'Dial whenever a network connection is not present' That allows both PC's to share one connection if it is open on the first PC, but make a dial-up connection if not.

If you have cable that is always on, then use the Never dial a connection option, as the internet connection will always come through the first PC.

As you can see I don't use the connection wizard !!! but I have been able to keep a small home network going through a series of changes and additions.

If you add a simple network hub, you won't need to make any changes to the two PC's and a third could be added by using a third address 192.168.0.3

Hope this helps
 
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