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I have posted here a while ago asking if my computer had decent specs for gaming. They were horrible and i said i would eventually get a new computer. What you guys reccomend me for gaming. It should do everything a normal computer can but be good for gaming also. I dont see why it wouldnt do everything normal but i just want to make myself clear. Also, no laptops.

I do have a friend that knows how to put together a computer but I dont really want to go to him because i dont know him very well and i dont want to get any problems.

My budget would be preferably 1k or less, but if you see a really good deal over 1k, i can afford it.

Also, what is the best operating system? I am on Vista ATM and i hate it, every game i want to play, i have to type does ______ work on vista. That being said, please dont offer any vista comps, most arent made for gaming anyways.

If you dont have any reccomendations, reccomend me some PC games. All my friends are playing Garrys Mod ATM. Any contribution to the thread would be helpful to keeping it up and having people see it and offer new ideas. Also, gaming mouses, keyboards, etc would help in my descision making also.
 

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Ok thank you for all the comments, i would prefer to buy one prebuilt if possible but building one would be fine too. Who would i hire to build it though? I also checked out the sticky on this but id prefer if you guys could show me some parts or a computer to buy.

To the guy above me, when i click on that link, it comes up blank.

Also, @llacrossedude, could you or someone else please explain to me if there is a huge diffrence between the build that cots about 900 and the build that costs about 1050? Is it a huge difference? i noticed that the only major price upgrades were graphics card and CPU.
 

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There can be, it all depends on what you need the computer to do. For example if you get a low end Intel machine for 800 and a AMD machine for 1000 overall they will preform about the same. It all boils down to exactly what hardware you have and what you need the computer to do.
 

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I think i am going to get a prebuilt but i want to make sure i get the right one for gaming, i would replace the graphics card on all of these but that would be it. Also, i heard i shouldnt use i3 intel for gaming, is this true? because some i3 computers have great GHz. Im not an extremely serious gamer either. Playing crysis on the highest settings isnt my dream. Right now, i cant even run joint operations on the lowest settings, getting games to play fast on normal settings is what im looking for.

Could someone give me a site where i could customize a gaming computer and order it prebuilt also? ive been on one before but i forget the name. Power supply is supposed to be important too and im worried that the computers im looking at dont have a good PSU.

Most likely one to buy HP - Pavilion Desktop / AMD Athlon™ II Processor / 4GB Memory / 1TB Hard Drive - p6754y 3 GHz need to replace the graphics card. 420 dollars, seems good to me.

Dell - Inspiron Desktop / Intel® Core™ i3 Processor / 4GB Memory / 1TB Hard Drive - I580-9186NBC i3 is the only thing im worried about. 3.2 Ghz.

HP - Pavilion Slimline Desktop / AMD Phenom™ II Processor / 4GB Memory / 750GB Hard Drive - s5730y 3.4 GHz, i heard in a review its hard to upgrade RAM which worries me but for about 200 extra dollars, im pretty sure this could be an amazing computer for me.

Gateway - Desktop / Intel® Core™ i5 Processor / 6GB Memory / 1.5TB Hard Drive - DX4850-27EU 2.8 GHz is low compared to the others but it said 3.1 Turbo boost. What is this and is it hard to get. This is a good candidate if i5 is much better than i3 like people say, but i want opinions from here.
 

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None of these computers can play any current games unless you put a graphics card in yourself, but the Gateway is the best of the 4.
Yes, i was planning on putting in a graphics card myself if i bought any of them. I am planning on spending another 150-250 on upgrading those. Should i worry about anything else other than the graphics card?

Also, what is your opninion on the slim lime? if i spent a good 200 dollars to upgrade that, would it be a good computer?
 

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Depending on the graphics card you get you might and most likely will need a PSU upgrade as well to supply enough clean power to your graphics card.
Ok thanks, ive found a couple more sites and im thinking about not getting the ones from best buy but building a custom one form the site centauruscomputers.com or Ibuypower.com or getting this specific model Titan, a Gaming PC at an Amazing Price
is a quad core processor much better than a dual core? On the last one, i could upgrade to quad and it wouldnt be that much.

Ive also read a lot about the power supply and some sites advertisements say that corsair power is much better. is this true or should i just get a 700 watt standard if im planning on buying from ibuypower?

EDIT: does dual graphics cards help a lot too. I dont want to spend an extra 90 dollars for 5fps more but if it makes a big difference, i would do it.
 

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Don't go with Ibuypower they are horrible and offer mediocre customer support. I would stick with the Gateway and just upgrade it. Now about dual graphic cards, it depends on the games you will be playing and the resolution you will be playing on. So in most cases a single card will be fine.
 

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Don't go with Ibuypower they are horrible and offer mediocre customer support. I would stick with the Gateway and just upgrade it. Now about dual graphic cards, it depends on the games you will be playing and the resolution you will be playing on. So in most cases a single card will be fine.
thanks, im still considereing ibuypower but im aware my copmuter may not come to me in working condition. From what ive heard, they give u all the parts but its not put together properly on occasions.

Im going to look at the reputations of centaurus and that other site and decide from then.

Best Buy is of course, legitimate so i dont have to worry about problems with them.

Is there any way to find the specs on this cpmuter though Titan, a Gaming PC at an Amazing Price I cant seem to find what the cooling unit is and what the psu is. I dont want to buy a nice computer and have it suck because of those two.
 

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thanks, ive made my desciesion and despite what you said about ibuypower, i will take my chances and buy from them, now i have a couple of questions about which parts i should buy,

CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full Tower Gaming Case - Black does full case or mid tower make a huge difference?


im going with AMD Phenom™ II X4 955 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU


4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - ** FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1600 ** Corsair or Major Brand is this good or should i upgrade?

should i get this ATI Radeon HD 5570 - 1GB - Single Card or or this NVIDIA GeForce GT 440 - 1GB im not sure which is better but based on reviews solely, it seems like the first one is the best bet.

Asetek 550LC Liquid CPU Cooling System (AMD) - Standard 120mm Fan is this the ebst cooling i can get or is the defualt better? Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - [Free Upgrade] Standard 120mm Fan should i get these two or go with a fan and heatsink?

finally for the power supply, should a 700 watt standar work well? the price comes out to be 749 which is great the graphics cards difference is barely any so im not worried about that.


Do i need an SSD? i read this and it turned me off Do I need SSD for my gamin ring? - Yahoo! Answers but then i read this The SSD Relapse: Understanding and Choosing the Best SSD - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News it seems like SSD's dont work well on vista for some reason but i will be getting windows 7.
 

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In regards of SSD for your system, it depends a bit on your needs. It will speed things up, no doubt, but SSD's are still cutting edge technology and still has some maturing ahead to become as reliable as HDD's (despite what some vendors/manufacturers may say).

They do work smoothly for most people, though. Since you're going to be gaming, there will be much less load times, less lag, and less sound (spinning/clicking HDD sound), and less powerconsumption. Here is a comparison of one Intel x25m versus 2x HDD in RAID 0 for gaming purposes:

YouTube - Intel® SSD Gaming Demo

Intel is known for very stable SSD's, but they are lagging behind on the writespeed (sequential). If you want great read and write speed, OCZ Vertex 2 is a good choice. The price on the Vertex 2 should be dropping now, as the Vertex 3 has been released to resellers.

I have had a few SSD's, and they generally speed up pretty much anything I use, due to extremely low seektimes, fenomenal IOPS performance and random performance, and of course the great speed when reading and writing to the drive.

One thing to consider, is to calculate that you need to leave ~25% of the total capacity unused or unallocated, so that the drive has extra space to do internal "housekeeping".

That shoud cover some of the basics for your needs. If you want to know more, ask away.


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alright thanks.

@ssd tweak but both of you if you guys know. I dont need an ssd right? it wont make my computer extremely slow without it or anything negative. also, what are your opinions on my memory, watts, cooling, and overall setup? i went much pricier with the cpu because im not playing many modern games. I will make the graphics card better and when i have my final build, ill post it.

Is the full tower a lot better than the mid tower or does it make a very minimal difference? And also quad core should just make my computer last longer right? not be more durable but in the future, it should be able to support newer games?

It said the graphics card requires AT LEAST 700 watts of power. does this mean i can get a 700 watt power supply and i should be fine or should i go with the 800? is 800 even enough?
 
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