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I have been using a computer my brother build me years ago for my birthday. I love it, but I need an upgrade badly. So badly that I am not even going to post my current specs.

I used to know some about the computer hardware world, but I am afraid that everything is so new to me now. So, you guys can treat me like a noob if you wish. I know I am going to ask noobish questions.

I went retarded for a short period of time a few months ago when I thought I was going to buy a mac, but I am over that. So I am looking to once again join the ranks of the intelligent life forms, aka pc users.

I figured to help you guys with helping me the most I should answer the questions inf the "Please Read This Before Posting" post.

1. My budget max is $3000, but I am looking to spend more in the $2000 range.

2. I used to be a big fan of AMD processors, but I hear Intel is doing better than them at this point.

3. I multitask a lot, I usually have no less than 10 windows open at the same time.

4. Gaming is my thing. I am not a hardcore gamer in the way that a person might raid every night, but I love gaming. (aka don't skimp on the video card(s).

5. I really like video editing, but I cannot do it very well on my current machine and . . . I would like to fix that problem. :laugh:

6. I have never overclocked anything. My brother was showing me something about it a couple months ago, but I didn't really learn anything about it. I may or may not overclock.

7. I like having a lot of space. I would be storing media files and the like.

8. I don't think I need any support for older programs. Unless you guys have any suggestions.

9. I hate this part. I love XP and all I hear about Vista is problems problems problems. From what I have learned about macs it looks like a damn carbon copy of osx. Although Leopard just came out for the mac and all I am hearing from that is problems problems problems. So . . . I think I might go Vista. :4-dontkno

10. Case. I don't think I will be moving my computer too too often. So I really don't care about size, just make sure my things fit. :laugh: I want my hardware to stay cool. Only other thing is . . . I was thinking Yellow.

11. I have a G15 and a G5, I think I am good.

12. I don't think I will be reusing things.

13. Just got a 20.1" wide screen last year and it is doing well for me, but I am thinking about going with a 2vc machine and doing a 2 monitor setup.

14. I am a fan of newegg, but if you guys have better stores I am very open minded.

15. I live in the USA

Okay now that's over with.

I got on buyxg.com and went crazy with the basic Intel QuadCore machine.

I want something like the below, but I am not completely sure about things like the Duo vs Quad and the different video cards.

# *BASE_PRICE: [+909]
# CAS: X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display & Control [-4] (Yellow Color)
# CS_FAN: Extra Ball Bearing Case Fan [+3] (2 x Fans [+3])
# CASUPGRADE: NONE
# CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 CPU @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit [+86]
# CD: LiteOn LH-20A1H 20X Double Layer DVD+-RW Super Allwrite + Lightscribe Technology [+16] (Yellow Color [+9])
# CD2: Sony Q170A 18x Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+29] (YELLOW COLOR [+9])
# CABLE: Round Cable Upgrade for Hard Drive, Optical Drive & Floppy Drive [+19]
# FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BEIGE COLOR)
# FLASHMEDIA: None
# FREEBIE_CU: FREE! 1GB USB 2.0 Portable Flash Drive
# FAN: Vigor Gaming Monsoon II Lite CLT-M2LI LGA775 CPU Air Conditioner Cooling System (The Ultimate and Best CPU overclocking performance) [+99]
# HDD: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+50])
# HDD2: NONE
# IEEE_CARD: NONE
# KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD [+2] (GREEN COLOR)
# MOUSE: PS2 INTERNET MOUSE W/ WHEEL [-2] (GREEN COLOR)
# MODEM: PCI 56K V.92 FAX MODEM W/ VOICE
# MONITOR: NONE
# MONITOR2: NONE
# MOTHERBOARD: (QX9650 Supports) Asus Maximus Formula Intel X38 Chipset CrossFire FSB1600 DDR2/1066Mhz Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0,IEEE1394,&7.1Audio [+169]
# MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory [+315] (Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader [+90])
# NETWORK: Killer K1 10/100/1000 Gigabit High Speed Online Gaming PCI Network Interface Card [+179]
# OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate [+105] (64-bit Edition [+19])
# PRINTER: None
# PRINTER_CABLE: None
# PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19]
# POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts Power Supplies [+110] (($10 off Mail-in Rebate) Xion SuperNova Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready)
# RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN NEXT BUSINESS DAY [+109]
# SOFT: Microsoft® Works v8.5
# SERVICE: Standard Warranty: 1-Year Limited Warranty Plus 24/7 Life-Time Technical Support
# SOUND: Creative Labs X-FI XtremeGamer 24-BIT PCI Sound Card [+89]
# SPEAKERS: Logitech (BLACK) X-540 70Watts 5.1 Configuration Speaker System [+68]
# TEMP: NONE (AS SHOWN)
# TVRC: None
# USB: Add External USB 2.0 Hub (4x USB 2.0 Ports) [+19] (BLACK COLOR)
# UPS: OPTI-UPS VS575C 575VA/345W UNINTERRUPT POWER SUPPLY - Recommended [+46]
# USBHD: NONE
# VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express Video Card [+126]
# VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express Video Card [+126]
# VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
# WNC: NONE
# _PRICE: (+2817)



Any help would be awesome. I really respect you guys.
 

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Hello,

Let me give you my opinion on a few things here.

First off, yes Intel does have a stronger market for higher-end dual core cpu's at the moment. I noticed that you mentioned a quad-core. Quadcores are a great technology, but keep in mind that most games don't fully utilize dualcores, yet alone quads.

As far as Cpu's go, I'd recommend this - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

Videocard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130309


PS - Nice budget! :rolleyes:
 

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I don't see any problem with the motherboard you chose
 

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Case: X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display & Control (Yellow Color)

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6750 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit

Mainboard: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) (Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P6N SLI-FI nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

Memory: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express Video Card

Video Card 2: NONE

LCD Monitor: NONE

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (150GB Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10, 000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD)

Data Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive

Optical Drive: (Special Price) 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (YELLOW COLOR)

Optical Drive 2: NONE

Sound: Creative Labs X-FI XtremeGamer 24-BIT PCI Sound Card

Price: $2615.00


Okay, I changed the cpu to the 2.66 GHz because it looks like I don't need the 3ghz to get a great amount of power. And I can oc the 2.66 and get a great amount.

I really am not afraid to say that I don't know too much about ram. Do you guys think 4gigs is overkill? Or do you think I will be able to use it with a lot of multitasking and the like?

I went down to one video card because I was thinking crazy things before. Am I right in thinking that this card will let me play modern games on high settings without any problems? Is there anything I should know about it? I have never seen a 640mb card.

P.s. I picked an 800w power supply http://www.xionusa.com/Product-powersupply_Sueprnova_800W.asp
good?

If you guys think I may have missed anything, I am all ears.

OH! one last thing!

This is very important to me.

Vista or XP, and why?
 

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I would stick with 2G of ram unless you go 64bit as 32 bit xp or vista will not see the full 4G only about 3.2 to 3.5G.


I don't know much about that power supply and can not tell you what the quality is like, If you are only using 1 video card have a look at this

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply 100 - 240 V - Retail $99 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002

Well i like vista but it does sometimes have issues but there is a service pack coming, if you want a proven OS then go XP
 

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Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express Video Card
is it just me or would he be better with a high end (eg superclocked) 8800GT or a lowish end GTX (careful not to run out of texture memory though...)

in general seems kind of expensive for what it is to me, maybe im just crazy though :D
 

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FEEL FREE TO CHANGE ANY PARTS


Case: Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer 420W Case with Side Window

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6750 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit

Mainboard: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) (Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P6N SLI-FI nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

Memory: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard) 2GB (2x1GB) PC8500 DDR2/1066 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Dominator)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express Video Card

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (150GB Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10, 000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD)

Data Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive

Optical Drive: (Special Price) 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (YELLOW COLOR)

Sound: Creative Labs X-FI XtremeGamer 24-BIT PCI Sound Card


Okay, now that the baseline is in, I looked up the parts on newegg and came to around 1700-1900.

I was wondering if anyone who had the time could look around for similar parts for this setup for a good price.

That would be pure awesome. :grin:

Current Newegg prices below:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136035

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148286

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130300

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130082&Tpk=SLI-FI+nForce+650i

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121026

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836116153
 

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FEEL FREE TO CHANGE ANY PARTS


Case: Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer 420W Case with Side Window

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6750 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit

Mainboard: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) (Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P6N SLI-FI nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

Memory: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard) 2GB (2x1GB) PC8500 DDR2/1066 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Dominator)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB 16X PCI Express Video Card

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (150GB Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10, 000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD)

Data Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive

Optical Drive: (Special Price) 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (YELLOW COLOR)

Sound: Creative Labs X-FI XtremeGamer 24-BIT PCI Sound Card
unless im mistaken the main thing that will be increased with a raptor compaired to a mainstream hdd is a loading speed increase and imo ditch the GTS, if you're gonna spend the money do it properly games at the moment are mainly graphics intensive more than processor... that said its still a nice card, i just prefer 2x8800GT's or a GTX the gts seems to be the black sheep right now from my point of view
 

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If you are not going to go SLI , I would dump the 650 chipset for and intel one ( P35 ). These are the only changes i would contemplate

ASUS P5K-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $140

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131225


EVGA 512-P3-N802-A3 GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card $300

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130306


OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply 100 - 240 V - Retail $99 ( after rebate )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002
 
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