[IamXIII]

Hello there as the title says i don't know whether I should replace my gigabyte poseidon (the older model) with a new one or just replace both of the case fans in it and probably drill and install one 120mm fan on the side of the case and probably buy a new cpu fan. I hope you guys can help me!

 

[gcavan]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

What is it you are trying to accomplish? Is there a problem with your current case and/or fans?

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

umm Im trying to lower the temps of my cpu and gpu. My current case has no side cover because when put on the side cover my temps go at around 80 °C when im gaming and doing other stuffs and its around 60 °C when idle, but when the side cover is off the temps are quite lower. So as a solution, im planning to punch a hole in the plexi glass part of my side cover to install a 120mm fan to suck cool air and im also planning to replace the factory cpu fan.

 

[Tyree]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

Overheating is generally caused by other problems unless you have some high heap producing components crammed into a small case with no fans.

PC Specs?
Pre-Built Brand & Model Number
Custom Built-Brand & Model of Mobo-CPU-RAM-Graphics-PSU.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: EX58-UD3R
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTS 250
Display Memory: 2414 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1007 MB
Shared Memory: 1407 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
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got this from dxdiag
btw my case is Gigabyte poseidon the old model (the one that has a plate in front)

and yeah i think those are high heat producing components thats why im choosing between "new case or old case + new and additional fans)

 

[Tyree]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

How old is the build?
From the info I fine that case came with one 120mm fan in front and one 120mm fan in the rear and that is commonly sufficient. Side fans can do more harm than good by disrupting the desired front to rear airflow.
Remove the case side and look at the PSU label for the Brand & Model.
Are you using the Bios to read the temps?
60C is too hot for idle but you have no components that should emit excessive heat.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

thanks for the tip, so im guessing that putting side fans are a big no? what am I supposed to do to lessen the heat then? and i dunno bout the bios thingy , but i can see my temps from a program called "Core Temp".

 

[Tyree]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

Remove the case side and look at the label on the PSU for the Brand Name and Model Number.
Core Temp is "usually" pretty accurate but the Bios is the most reliable source for accurate Temp & Voltage readings. Boot to the Bios and look for System Health.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

its gigabyte superb 720 model no: ge-p610a-c2

 

[JimE]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

When is the last time it was cleaned? Having the heat sinks full of dust/dirt is a major factor in overheating issues.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

I've had it cleaned a week a go in a pc shop. umm i think were straying too far from my question here

 

[JimE]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

We are trying to gather information to assist. It would be stupid for anyone to recommend anything without knowing the problem you are trying resolve.

We (you) need to know WHY it is overheating before you can decide/determine how to correct the problem. If it's just standard PC hardware that isn't being OCed (which it appears to be) and the current case already has decent airflow (it sounds like there are front and rear fans, so it should have some airflow), then something is causing the PC to overheat. There could be a hardware issue, the case is really crappy and doesn't have good airflow, or the room temp is warm/hot (hot room air = less cooling).

A new case will only help if there is some issue with your current case. The same applies to the fans.

I'd hate to recommend you spend a bunch of cash, and you put it together and it's still hot because you have a hardware issue or the room is hot.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

Ok, thank you for your insight guys it helped me a lot, im just gonna buy a new cpu fan and install another fan in the front of the case since you said that putting a fan on the side disrupts the natural air flow of the case :O sorry for my last reply though its just that im kinda in a hurry to patch things up. thanks again ^_^

 

[Tyree]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

The OEM CPU heatsink/fan should be more than sufficient if no OC'ing is involved as well as the two 120mm fans included with the case for your hardware but an aftermarket HSF won't do any harm.
Don't rule out that GB PSU as a possibility also. It's not the best quality (made by FSP) and is not 80+ certified. The watts/amps on the label are sufficient but it may not be able to actually produce those numbers.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

thanks again tyree, yeah i guess my psu might be contributing a bit on the heat produced inside the case i already bought a cooler master vortex plus and one 80mm aux fan a while a go im installing it when i get back home, i really hope that it works and i hope i made the right choice lol

 

[WereBo]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

Another thing to consider with a hot-running PC is the cable-routing, that can disrupt the air-flow and cause 'hot-spots' too. If possible, routing the wires along the sides of the case and underneath the mobo can seriously reduce the temperatures :wink:

As for side-fans, they can either help or hinder the cooling, depending on the individual PC's internal layout. My PC has an 80mm out-take fan which drops the overall temps by about 5C, flipping it around to an intake raises the temps by about 5C, other PC's run cooler without a side-fan at all - It's a matter of trial and error.

Seeing as you'd have to chop a hole in the window for a fan to be fitted, I'd leave it as a last-resort if all else failed, it would be shame to cut a hole out, only to find the PC is cooler without the fan.

 

[IamXIII]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

mkay so here's some updates on my conundrum i installed my new cpu fan and it works like a charm! my processor temps dropped down from 55 to 41 Celsius when its idle! but then again my nvidia gts 250 remained hot 60 Celsius when its idle and btw i haven't drilled a hole yet

 

[ReviverSoft]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

yeah i guess my psu might be contributing a bit on the heat produced inside the case

No, it doesn't. A PSU exhausts the hot air through the rear (meshed) panel by design.

nvidia gts 250 remained hot 60 Celsius when its idle

You could try disassembling the cooler from GPU, give it a thorough cleaning, clean and re-apply thermal paste on the chip and assemble it back again. Changing the cooler itself is also an option, in the worst case scenario.

If you can bring down the Idle temp. to the 45-50 range, that should be fine. Lesser the better.

 

[Tyree]

Re: Should I buy a new CPU Case or new fans (CPU Fan & Case Fans)

mkay so here's some updates on my conundrum i installed my new cpu fan and it works like a charm! my processor temps dropped down from 55 to 41 Celsius when its idle! but then again my nvidia gts 250 remained hot 60 Celsius when its idle and btw i haven't drilled a hole yet

55 to 41C is a good improvement for the CPU and 60C is fine for the GPU.
The CPU should run about there with the OEM HSF.
I would still strongly suggest replacing that PSU to help insure a longer life for your components.

 

[IamXIII]

No, it doesn't. A PSU exhausts the hot air through the rear (meshed) panel by design.

You could try disassembling the cooler from GPU, give it a thorough cleaning, clean and re-apply thermal paste on the chip and assemble it back again. Changing the cooler itself is also an option, in the worst case scenario.

If you can bring down the Idle temp. to the 45-50 range, that should be fine. Lesser the better.

I have a question about applying thermal paste on the gpu, is it safe to remove thermal compound at the side(border) of the gpu chip? Because that's what I found when I removed the gpu fan, and I'm having second thoughts on removing it (thermal paste) because I'm worried that I might damage it

Also, sorry but I'm not considering replacing my psu, because its been only a year since I bought it and its quite expensive for a college student lol