Random restarts and freezes after installing RAM

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fang273

Discussion Starter · Jan 18, 2007

Hello, I recently put in more RAM and after that I had some other problems, so I took it out and put it back and and now those are gone, but I have a new problem.

After playing games for awhile when i try to exit the game my computer freezes.
last time it happened, I waited and let it cool down and then got back on, and it froze and restarted about 10 minutes into surfing the web...

I think it might have something to do with not having enough fans, the computer came with just the fan on the motherboard, and its worked fine so far but I'm thinking that the extra RAM is making it heat up more.

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Sempron, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3400+
Motherboard Name MSI RS480M2 (MS-7093) (3 PCI, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset ATI Radeon Xpress 200, AMD Hammer
System Memory 1472 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (08/31/05)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (256 MB)
Video Adapter ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (256 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480)
Monitor Compaq FS7600 [17" CRT] (CNQ53502GB)

There are my system specs, I have a new graphics card in the mail and I'm going to put a 500 watt power supply in, and I was wondering what type of cooling you guys recommend?

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Doby

· #2 · Jan 18, 2007

You should have at least one 80mm fan in the back exhausting air out and one 80mm in the front pulling cool air in, 120mm fans would be quieter and even give more airflow.

Do you have monitoring software installed to see the temps and voltages? If so post them here.

If no software goto the msi website they have it free or it would also be on your motherboard cd

fang273

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 18, 2007

Well, everest says my motherboard is 38 C, and my CPU is 34 C. But I also have Sensors View Pro, and it says my CPU is 119 C...I don't see how that can be right though because my computer doesn't feel hot.

As far as voltages, Sensors View says: VcoreA: 0 +2.5V: 0 +3.3V: 0 +5V: 0 and +12V 13.90.

Also, the air openings are on the sides of my comp, so if I put a fan in the front I don't think it'll pull much air, where would I put it then?

Doby

· #4 · Jan 18, 2007

Everast is probly more right if your computer was running a cpu temp of 119c it would be toast. I would still try the msi software I find the board manufactuers software to be the most reliable but the everest temps if they are correct are good.

First thing you need to do and this is important is go into your bios and check that +12V, if it 13.90 replace you psu because this is a bad overvolt and could be causing the problems, in fact if this reading is accurate I would not use the computer with the current psu.

If you can mount a fan in the front do so it will pull some air in and create airflow from front to back even if it looks like it won't, as far as the sides, you can experiment but I like mine pulling cool air in but say you have a fan opening top and bottom on the side of the case, you could try top exhausting hot air out and bottom blowing cool air in

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fang273

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 18, 2007

Sorry, I haven't done too much computer work, how would I go about going into the bios?

Doby

· #6 · Jan 18, 2007

When you first start the computer start tapping the delete key, when in bios (also called setup) don't change anything. Go into pc health status from there I know you can monitor your cpu temp but I am unclear if you can monitor your voltages, you will just have to see.

I have your manual and according to it if you install digicell from your motherboard cd you can monitor both temps and voltages under "core center" tab

fang273

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 18, 2007 (Edited)

I'll try looking the bios but I got this computer premade so I don't think I have the motherboard CD.

:EDIT: Check bios, same temps as everest and it doesn't show voltage.

Doby

· #8 · Jan 18, 2007

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/software/swr/spt_swr_detail.php?UID=639&kind=1

Go there, scroll down the list and download and install MSI PC Alert 4 this will give you more accurate voltages and temps

fang273

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 18, 2007

Got it installed, same temps and the volt says 13.97.
I have to go to sleep now, thanks for the help so far and see you in the morning

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Doby

· #10 · Jan 18, 2007

Yep me too and your welcome, I would replace the psu its overvolting and I most likely won't be on till tomarrow pm

fang273

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jan 18, 2007

Okay, anyone know if I need to get more fans in first or if I can just put it right now and add more fans later?

speedster123

· #12 · Jan 18, 2007

It sounds like Doby is giving you the answer. The power supply issue should be resolved if it is over-volting.
What is the make and model of the one in the computer?
What antivirus/firewall progams are installed?

fang273

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 18, 2007

I'm going to put in a new PSU, but I'm not sure if I need more fans first, and I'm not sure if my computer can hold more fans.

It only looks like there's room in the back for a fan, because the front of the computer is too crowded.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/fang273/DSCF1881.jpg
Is that the slot for a fan?

speedster123

· #14 · Jan 18, 2007

Yes, you can put one exhausting out the back. Please read the psu "sticky" at the head of this section, its worth reading.

Doby

· #15 · Jan 19, 2007

Fans are cheap put one in the front most cases allow for this and as speedster suggested read the psu sticky and post back with what video card you are going to get and what psu before you purchase.

fang273

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 19, 2007 (Edited)

Okay, got my psu and card a few days ago, put them in, and got it all working, but PCAlert4 says that the 12v voltage is 8.98...for a bit it said 10.98...is this normal or have I gotten a bad psu?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2143208&CatId=1079
there's my PSU

:EDIT: everest says my GPU is 54C, do I need more fans than just the one on it or is it normal?

Doby

· #17 · Jan 20, 2007

Don't run PCAlert4 and everest at the same time sometimes they can inter fer with one another, report back the voltages.

This I can tell you, the psu cannot be producing only 8.9v or the computer would not run, even at 10.98 I doubt it would even boot.

Ultra is not the greatest psu even though I have one but is your computer now stable? The problem now solved?

53c for a gpu temp ain't to bad and if the computer is stable you should be ok

fang273

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 20, 2007

tried them seperately and pcalert4 and sensorsview both say 8.9 but I guess it's just something wrong with the sensor, and I haven't played any games yet but it's been stable so I'll push it a bit today.

fang273

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jan 20, 2007

after about an hour of CS:S, the max temps were about 50 on the CPU and 60 on the GPU, the mobo stayed below 40. towards the end I started noticing wierd graphic glitches and I'm wondering if that's from my GPU getting too hot?

Doby

· #20 · Jan 21, 2007

Could be but a gpu temp of 60c when playing a game ain't all that bad, I think you mentioned you can put fans in the side of the case, if so I would have them blow in that should blow cool air over the video card

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