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Random lag spikes!!!
Hi there,
I've been playing world of Warcraft online for about 6 months with no problems, a few months ago I began getting these random lag spikes, they last about 3 minutes at reoccur every 10 or so minutes.
I cleaned out my computer for dust, and the random lag spikes totally disappeared for about 3 or so weeks.
Every few weeks I would continue to clean out my computer for dust, and it would all be good for a few weeks.
Then, I took a 2 month break from the game, and during these 2 months I did not clean it for dust,
I began playing again this week, and surely the lag spikes were happening.
So I cleaned out the computer and it was all fine, but only for a few days, usually it would be fine for weeks.
It is safe to conclude they are caused by dust, right? But how is it happening so often now?
Please help.
My computer is an hp desktop
8 gigs of ram
Windows vista.
I've been playing world of Warcraft online for about 6 months with no problems, a few months ago I began getting these random lag spikes, they last about 3 minutes at reoccur every 10 or so minutes.
I cleaned out my computer for dust, and the random lag spikes totally disappeared for about 3 or so weeks.
Every few weeks I would continue to clean out my computer for dust, and it would all be good for a few weeks.
Then, I took a 2 month break from the game, and during these 2 months I did not clean it for dust,
I began playing again this week, and surely the lag spikes were happening.
So I cleaned out the computer and it was all fine, but only for a few days, usually it would be fine for weeks.
It is safe to conclude they are caused by dust, right? But how is it happening so often now?
Please help.
My computer is an hp desktop
8 gigs of ram
Windows vista.
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Heat is the main enemy of electronics; the mortal nemisis, if you will.
What has happened, I believe, is that your "dust" problem has caused damage to your system hardware. These things happen, as just like you will one day, they get old and tired. :sigh:
Though HP is a descent company, they still put some junk out there. I have seen this before, and I think that your PSU (Power Supply Unit) is going dead. Go to your local computer store and drop $75 - $125 on a new PSU. Ultra has a "lifetime" series that is warrantied for life; though that is conditional. As a matter of fact, I am looking at the Ultra LSP-750W (LSP is their Lifetime Series), on http://tigerdirect.com, and it is $69.99.
Try that and see how it goes.
What has happened, I believe, is that your "dust" problem has caused damage to your system hardware. These things happen, as just like you will one day, they get old and tired. :sigh:
Though HP is a descent company, they still put some junk out there. I have seen this before, and I think that your PSU (Power Supply Unit) is going dead. Go to your local computer store and drop $75 - $125 on a new PSU. Ultra has a "lifetime" series that is warrantied for life; though that is conditional. As a matter of fact, I am looking at the Ultra LSP-750W (LSP is their Lifetime Series), on http://tigerdirect.com, and it is $69.99.
Try that and see how it goes.
sven i think your making hasty conclusions when you dont have any specs or details there could be a multitude of possibilities that could affect his computer and cause lag. that why we need ur system specs.
Ok... But why would you need additional system specs, if you're experienced, when it appears to go away when he clears heat causing variables away from the system? If you work on enough systems, you can see the problems before knowing the rest of the details.sven i think your making hasty conclusions when you dont have any specs or details there could be a multitude of possibilities that could affect his computer and cause lag. that why we need ur system specs.
My conclusion, is based off of thousands of common issues, reported by the user. He clearly states that when he cleared the dust it worked fine. To me that indicates HEAT. Now it is not solving it for him, so I have to believe that he as hardware that is tired from working so hard...
I could be wrong, but as I stated, it is what I believe.
You yourself, should not be so quick, to tell another "Tech" that he is in fact, to quick (wrong) to anwser as they have....
I agree 100%. Heat is a main source of lag spikes. Dust is the main culprit. Or a poor airflow throughout the computer.Ok... But why would you need additional system specs, if you're experienced, when it appears to go away when he clears heat causing variables away from the system? If you work on enough systems, you can see the problems before knowing the rest of the details.
My conclusion, is based off of thousands of common issues, reported by the user. He clearly states that when he cleared the dust it worked fine. To me that indicates HEAT. Now it is not solving it for him, so I have to believe that he as hardware that is tired from working so hard...
If you could list your power supply unit(PSU), that would be fantastic. If you don't know where to find it, just open up the side of your computer and look for this. Write down(or take a picture, whichever is more convenient for you):
Make
Model
Wattage
Amps on 12vrail
Thanks.
no i was just stating that we dont have all you computer specs it could be something else besides heat e.g internet connection, cpu, or your video card.
Model - p6130f
Processor - AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor 2.40 GHz
Ram- 8.00 GB
System type- 64-bit Operating System
My graphics card is a
Nvidia Geforce, I'm not sure the exact model though.
Processor - AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor 2.40 GHz
Ram- 8.00 GB
System type- 64-bit Operating System
My graphics card is a
Nvidia Geforce, I'm not sure the exact model though.
yeah it could be heat the old am2+ processor are 65nm produce a lot of heat as it is. and your graphics card is onboard so its not very good. so first thing first try reducing your WoW setting down to the lowest possible and run a speed test and tell us what type of internet you have. Click here for the link http://www.speedtest.net/
ohh and you have a 300w generic brand power supply that could be the problem. And your graphics card is a Nvidia 9100 onboard this as well could be you problem.
ohh and you have a 300w generic brand power supply that could be the problem. And your graphics card is a Nvidia 9100 onboard this as well could be you problem.
You think? :smooch:ohh and you have a 300w generic brand power supply that could be the problem.
there is no need for sarcasm the are always a multitude of possibilities to basic problems as i stated i could be his power supply, graphics card or internet. until we get his temps for his power supply and internet specs there is no reason to jump to conclusions.
Sarcasm was not meant, but a little humor was; my appologies. You are right, that more information would be helpful. But as I stated, I thought it was the power supply, as PSU's are rated, and their actual output is less than what they are rated for. I also knew that being a factory made PC, and not custom, that the PSU used by the manufacturer was not going to be good. Generic PSU's have a general life span of a year or two; just oustide their warranties. However, good PSU's have a WAY better life span; their total output reduces very slowly over time.there is no need for sarcasm the are always a multitude of possibilities to basic problems as i stated i could be his power supply, graphics card or internet. until we get his temps for his power supply and internet specs there is no reason to jump to conclusions.
Heat is the main reason for this reduction occurs. With the stated prob/solution from the user, I told him/her to start with the PSU, as I felt that the PSU, already fought through the heat to give it's total life up... Make sense?
You both(Sven2157 & llacrossedude7) bring up some key points. PSU's can lead to issue's, especially junky ones. However, it is always best to double check to be 100%.
I say, we just focus on helping the user :wink:.
Zealex
I say, we just focus on helping the user :wink:.
Zealex
From past experiences on the forum, I have seen many heat problems with the 9100,9200 and the 9300 NVIDIA cards. Can you run SIW for 10 minutes while the game is running? Don't close the game, as it can give inaccurate temperatures. When you have the game running for 10 minutes, go to Hardware, and then Sensors. Post your temperatures here.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Sensor Value Min MaxFrom past experiences on the forum, I have seen many heat problems with the 9100,9200 and the 9300 NVIDIA cards. Can you run SIW for 10 minutes while the game is running? Don't close the game, as it can give inaccurate temperatures. When you have the game running for 10 minutes, go to Hardware, and then Sensors. Post your temperatures here.
Thanks.
OWNER-PC
Fintek F8000
Voltages
VIN0 1.66 V 1.66 V 1.66 V
VIN1 1.70 V 1.70 V 1.70 V
VIN2 1.61 V 1.60 V 1.61 V
Temperatures
TMPIN0 53 °C (127 °F) 45 °C (112 °F) 53 °C (127 °F)
TMPIN2 38 °C (100 °F) 28 °C (82 °F) 41 °C (105 °F)
Fans
FANIN0 1809 RPM 1754 RPM 1818 RPM
FANIN1 864 RPM 833 RPM 870 RPM
AMD Phenom X4 9750
Temperatures
Core #0 30 °C (85 °F) 21 °C (68 °F) 34 °C (92 °F)
Core #1 30 °C (85 °F) 21 °C (68 °F) 34 °C (92 °F)
Core #2 30 °C (85 °F) 21 °C (68 °F) 34 °C (92 °F)
Core #3 30 °C (85 °F) 21 °C (68 °F) 35 °C (94 °F)
Powers
Processor 54.60 W 54.60 W 95.00 W
NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Temperatures
GPU Core 101 °C (213 °F) 72 °C (161 °F) 103 °C (217 °F)
ST375052 8AS
Temperatures
Assembly 31 °C (87 °F) 28 °C (82 °F) 31 °C (87 °F)
Air Flow 31 °C (87 °F) 28 °C (82 °F) 31 °C (87 °F)
this is while the game has been running for 10 minutes, aswell as my internet browser. I noticed only 2 fans in my computer are running, I have 3 fans, is there a reason for this?
Your graphics card is running very hot about 50C is as high as you every want it to go. So my advuce get a new graphics card and if all you are doing is playing WoW you dont need a high end card or a new psu. but a since ur psu is god awful i would get 1 anyways.
here is what i recommend:
For a new PSU i recommend a cheap Thermaltake 430W it has everything u need and can run a pretty good graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
Now for a graphics card i would recommend a ati 4670, its a all-around good cheap card that will play all the games you want on good settings.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102855
Ohh and were is the third fan located? Because all the fans should be running unless one is dead, unplugged, or has a bad molex connector
here is what i recommend:
For a new PSU i recommend a cheap Thermaltake 430W it has everything u need and can run a pretty good graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
Now for a graphics card i would recommend a ati 4670, its a all-around good cheap card that will play all the games you want on good settings.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102855
Ohh and were is the third fan located? Because all the fans should be running unless one is dead, unplugged, or has a bad molex connector
The Thermaltake TR2 430W is only suitable for onboard graphics or AGP cards. It has a low efficiency rating of 65% and not enough +12V amps for a PCIE card.For a new PSU i recommend a cheap Thermaltake 430W it has everything u need and can run a pretty good graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
The reason I posted it is because the graphics card i recommend does not require a pcie 6pin so all the power will come through the pcie x16 lanes so this should be just fine.
And if you don't think it will be enough power the Antec 520W will work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
And if you don't think it will be enough power the Antec 520W will work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
Is there anything i could do to try to reboot the third fan?
Its near the top of my computer.
Its near the top of my computer.
Make sure the fan's power cable is properly connected either to the PSU or motherboard. If it's still not working, replace with a new one.
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