Sorry for the lagtime in replying have to shut one comp down swap the monitor to the other one then reboot that one. any way here's what happening nnowwhen computer starts up first screen i get is a screen shoowing the mother bord manufacture that has an option to press delet to enter the bios or tab to continue set up delete will take you to bios , tab or just not touching will bring you to a black screen whitch appologises because wind didn't start with start windows normally highlited also seconds untill windows starts safe mode safe mode with networking, safe with comand promp, and last known good config If you let count down in start norm mode it just stops at 0 . alll the other if highlited and press enter just stop. nothing can't move highlight upr down. what would you sugest next ? sledge hammer? Thanks