[dojharris]

Going to build my second computer. I know there are people here that know a lot more than me so i thought i would ask before looking at bits,,,, i got an i idia what i want. Looking to run games well like this below and for genrals day to day things.
http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System Requirements/
Got about £600 and dont need monitor keyboard mouse or operating system.
I would like a AMD cpu. Any links for best prices and specifactions that you would think i need. Thanks for your time
DojHarris

 

[bruiser]

At this time, forget AMD. The Intel Core Duo cpu beats AMD. Look at the E6400 cpu.

 

[TheMatt]

£600 is a good amount, you will get a decent rig out of it.

Asus P5LD2/C Socket LGA 775/Conroe/Intel 945P/4xDDR2 667/ PCI-E x16/SATA II RAID/ATX - £61
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinfor...5P/4xDDR2 667/ PCI-E x16/SATA II RAID/ATX.htm

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz/2MB Cache/1066MHz FSB/Socket 775/ Dual-Core/Processor with Fan - £143
http://www.misco.co.uk/SSinfo/~Q756.../Socket+775/+Dual-Core/Processor+with+Fan.htm

Corsair 1GB VS DDR533 DDR2 2x512MB (2x64x64) CAS4 - £92
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinfor...1GB VS DDR533 DDR2 2x512MB (2x64x64) CAS4.htm

WD 250GB SATA2/300 7200RPM 16MB - £43
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~Q65612~WW~/WD 250GB SATA2/300 7200RPM 16MB.htm

Pioneer DVR-111BK 16x DVD.RW/RAM black - £20
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~131024~WW~/Pioneer DVR-111BK 16x DVD.RW/RAM black.htm

Connect 3D Radeon X1900GT 256Mb DVI+DVI+VIVO - £115
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinfor...nect 3D Radeon X1900GT 256Mb DVI+DVI+VIVO.htm

Antec TruePower Trio 650W ATX PSU - £70
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinformation/~Q76272~WW~/Antec TruePower Trio 650W ATX PSU.htm

Comes out to about £544 before VAT. If you will end up being too over budget, you can drop down to 1x 1 GB stick of RAM, I believe that was less money that the dual channel pair. You will also need to choose a case. The Antec Sonata is a nice inexpensive case.

http://www.misco.co.uk/productinfor...a II 450W ATX2 PSU ATX Black Desktop Case.htm

 

[dojharris]

Thanks for you help thats great. may i just say this to clear my mind.
Been looking at the 3 Processor's below. I know the intel with the Cache Memory 2 x 1 MB is good,,,,, but what about the Bus Size 2000 MHz on the AMD Athlon 64 X2 when the intel has Bus Speed 1066 MHz

http://www.lowestonweb.com/products/...2-8FB720F9DAF7 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ sktAM2

http://www.misco.co.uk/HPSinfo/~Q756...0Processor.htm
Intel Core 2 Duo E64002.13GHz

http://www.misco.co.uk/productinform...affiliate=2012
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz

Thanks for your time
Doj

 

[bruiser]

The Intel will win.

 

[linderman]

its not even a close race

 

[TheMatt]

The Intel will win.

its not even a close race

And it is a better value than the AMD X2's.

BTW, the links don't work.

 

[ebackhus]

Don't let these zealots trick you, Doj! :laugh:

For that amount of money you could build a good system. I'm getting my prices from www.newegg.com which lists in US dollars. The amount you said you have to spend is roughly $1,100 USD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138026
BIOSTAR TForce 550 AM2 Socket motherboard $79.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103030
AMD 5000+ X2 $309.99

I'd use those as a base and work up. You still have about $700 left in the budget from there. Sure, Intel may have the upper-hand in some areas but if you look at ALL the numbers they are almost equal.

 

[dojharris]

Well i have looked at both Processors,,,, by THE MAT and Ebackhas, but i cant work out which is best,,, but the intel has L2 Cache Size: 2 MB and the AMD only has 1MB L2 cache, i guess thats a large difference but i dont know what it does or means. Then the AMD has a Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz When the intel has Processor Speed: 2.13 GHz. Thanks for the links Ebackhas but i am in the uk.>>> THE MAT<<<< Can i ask a ? please, If i went for that system i think i would have to spend about another £200,,,,, Not sure about the ram i was thinking more like (2GB or 1 and half gig) (dont know how good the ram is you put in the link and i think i would prefer 1 gig ram modules) and maybee up the graphics card a bit ?>>>> Let me know what you think and thanks for your time all,,,,,, doj harris,,,,

 

[dojharris]

What do you think of this
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?mbb-c2d635&P=1
Looks about the same as your spec but a bit cheaper. Couldn't work out what they doing with the ram, but i looks fast ram or work out make and model of motherboard. Just in case the link stops working you will find it at the site above in motherboard bundles and £249.00 Ex VAT Motherboard Bundle Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1024MB 667Mhz DDR2 ...... Sorry to be a painray:

 

[linderman]

the intel cpu now moves more data per clock cycle that the AMD


I have a dual core 4400 X2 in my desktop now but I know I am not in the front of the pack any more ! hahahhahahahha

 

[Tumbleweed36]

Don't let these zealots trick you, Doj! :laugh:

they are almost equal.

Hi ebackhus,

Almost only counts in Hand Grenades and Horse Shoes, so you need to rethink this issue.:wave: :4-thatsba

 

[TheMatt]

What do you think of this
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?mbb-c2d635&P=1
Looks about the same as your spec but a bit cheaper. Couldn't work out what they doing with the ram, but i looks fast ram or work out make and model of motherboard. Just in case the link stops working you will find it at the site above in motherboard bundles and £249.00 Ex VAT Motherboard Bundle Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1024MB 667Mhz DDR2 ...... Sorry to be a painray:

That looks good, but it looks like it would be a tight fit into your budget, and you may go over a little. If you can afford it, then go for it, that would be better than my Motherboard/CPU/RAM combo.

Keep the questions coming, that is what TSF is here for :smile:

 

[dojharris]

Thanks THE MAT, and everyone els. you have been a great help. I worked the prices out and the bundle pack i found is cheaper. Toatal bundle pack £292.57 Inc VAT + £6 delivery and yours add up to £347.76 Inc VAT.

 

[TheMatt]

Good news. I didn't take the time to add it up. But anyway, go for it. You will be pleased with the performance.