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Hello

I want to get my 13 yr old son a build project for Christmas as his current computer is having issues, plus he has filled up hard drive with games...

I do not have a lot to spend but would like to get him something he can build and upgrade as we go along, as well as use parts from his current computer is possible. (a refurbished Gateway GM5643E i got him last year for christmas..)

1. Budget: How much money are you willing to spend on the new build? Ugh, seriously poor… I want to keep it around 500 bucks but can try for more

2. Brands: Are there any brands of components you want or don't want? Do not know

3. Multitasking: Will you be multitasking with this computer and if so, how much? no

4. Gaming: Will you be gaming and if so, how much and how new are the games? Yes, all he does is play games. Currently his 320GB HD is full of games downloaded from Steam ( Fallout games, Left for Dead, etc…)

5. Calculations: Will you be doing any intense calculations or media encoding? Ummmmm???? :4-dontkno

6. Overclocking: Do you plan on overclocking and if so, how much? Ummmmm? :4-dontkno

7. Storage: How much storage will you need and what will you be storing? Stores games so 500GB at least considering he filled up a 320 in less than a year, maybe bigger… I got him an external harddrive, but it wont allow him to store the games in it… (WHY NOT?)

8. Legacy Support: Will you need support for older hardware like parallel, serial, or PS/2 devices? Don’t know, current system windows Vista 32 bit

9. Operating System: Do you want Windows XP or Vista, or Linux compatibility? Whatever is cheapest and compatible with his current software…

10. Case: Do you want help selecting a case and if so, how big do you want it? I need all the help I can get

11. Accessories: Do you want a keyboard, mouse, or other items included? Nope

12. Recycled Components: Will you be reusing any components you already have? If possible

13. Monitor: If you want a monitor, what size do you want and should it be widescreen? Nope

14. Stores: Do you have any online stores that you prefer to purchase from? No

15. Location: What country do you live in? USA


Thanks in advance for any help :pray:
 

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Do you need a full size ATX Mobo or will a mATX be OK?
Do you want a dedicated graphics card or is Onboard graphics OK?
 

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Ummm. I dont know what you mean regarding a full size ATX ot a mATX; what are the differences?

As for the graphics card, right now he has a XFX GeForce8600GT card but I would like to upgrade that in hopes it stops him complaining aout what a sucky computer he has... I know his current computer has a ggateway 5 bay case with a uATX
 

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Ugh, I went to the gateway site and tried to get a configuration of his computer but it would not accept his serial number nor did their serial number locator work in registering it either... ( maybe cos a refrub?)

I did get a list of possible components and have made note of any changes added to the computer since I got it for him.
Maybe some suggestions of upgrading this one if possible or using some parts in a new case?

Components list for

Accessories
8015954R - Gateway Media Center Remote Control For Windows Vista

Cables
8003840R - Unshielded Power Cord
8015491R - Modem/Phone Cable
8015734R - 500 mm SATA Cable
8016694R - IDE 80 Conductor Cable
8016695R - 300 mm Serial ATA Cable

Cases and Case Hardware
3507125R - Gateway 5-Bay uATX Computer Case (Audio+1394+RCA+DockBay)
3507126R - Gateway 5-Bay uATX Computer Case (Audio+1394+RCA+DockBay)
8015462R - Screw 6/32-Hex
8015485R - 80 mm System Fan (2400 RPM)
8015583R - #6-32UNC Screw
8015586R - Rubber Computer Case Foot
8015599R - Add-In Card Slot Cover
8015991R - PCI EMI Shield
8015998R - Hard Drive Cage for 5-Bay Case
8016018R - Front I/O Audio+1394+RCA Assembly
8016038R - USB Ports / Power Switch Assembly for Gateway 5-Bay uATX Case
8016621R - Rear I/O Bezel Plate Assembly
8016675R - Brushed Aluminum Silver Color Accent Panel for Gateway 5-Bay uATX Case
8016696R - Right Side/Top Panel for Gateway 5-Bay Case (Black)
8016697R - Top Bezel for Gateway 5-Bay uATX Case (Black)
8016699R - Left Side Panel for Gateway 5-Bay uTAX Case (Black)
8016700R - Docking Bay for Removable USB Hard Drive
8016759R - Thumbscrew for Hard Drive Cage
8016761R - 5.25-Inch Bay Door Insert for Expansion
8016821R - 5.25-Inch Bay Door Insert for DVD+/-RW/RAM / Labelflash Drive
8016827R - Front Bezel Assembly for Gateway 5-Bay Case (Audio+1394+RCA)

Hard Drives
5503935R - 400 GB 7200 RPM SATA II Hard Drive With 8 MB Cache
5504011R - 400 GB 7200 RPM SATA II Hard Disk Drive With 8 MB Cache - SEAGATE
5504030R - Hitachi 400GB 7200rpm SATA II Hard Drive

Heatsinks
8016622R - Active Heatsink

Keyboards
7010912R - Gateway 104+ Elite Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Kit - Windows Vista Compatible

Media Card Reader
5509081R - 15-in-1 Media Card Reader with Smart Copy Button and IR Receiver

Memory ( I upgraded memory to 3GB )
5001045R - Samsung 512 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Memory Module
5001215R - 512 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM - NANYA
5001216R - 512 MB PC5300 DDR2 667 MHz SDRAM
5001217R - 512MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM
5001237R - 1024 MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM
5001238R - 1024 MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM
5001239R - 1024 MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM
5001281R - 512 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
5006151R - 1024 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
5006166R - 512 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Modems
6008041R - 56K PCI Data/Fax Modem UniBryce - Lite On
6008042R - 56K PCI Data/Fax Modem UniBryce

Motherboards
4006194R - Intel (Schroeder Town) G33 Motherboard

Optical Drives
5509073R - Super Multi-DVD+/-RW Drive with Labelflash

Power Supplies
6506042R - Delta 400 Watt Power Supply
6506043R - 400 Watt Power Supply
6506070R - 400-Watt Power Supply BTX Non-PFC

Processors
4506385R - Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q6600 (2.40 GHz)

TV Tuner Cards
6008116R - Asus Combo-210X NTSC/ATSC PCI-E TV Tuner Card

As mentioned earlier, added a GeForce8600GT graphics card....

What can I do to upgrade this? I know I want to upgrade graphics card and power supply, probably Mobo and processor too?
 

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Does that really have 3, 400Gig hard drives that are full?

The Q6600 is decent but on a OEM(read Gateway) motherboard overclocking is not an option and the power supply is under powered for the 8600TS graphics card.

Does he use the TV tuner card?

It's not impossible to change the motherboard in a OEM case but it's usually not a beginners task either the I/O shield in the back will not match up to a retail board and the wiring for the front panel will usually not be marked and have to traced.

For the price and advantage of a mid tower case that accepts a full sized ATX board I think it's well worth it.

I would reuse the Q6600 and overclock it to 2.9-3.0Gig along with the existing hard and DVD drives take a look over these components.

Link Disc List Rebate Cost After Mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128372 GA-EP45-UD3L $89.99 $10.00 $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209 DDR2 800 4Gig $99.99 $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019 Zalman CPU fan $39.98 $39.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&cm_re=corsair-_-17-139-006-_-Product 750TX $107.99 $20.00 $87.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130468&cm_re=GTS250-_-14-130-468-_-Product GTS250 $134.99 $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 Antec 300 Case $54.95 $20.00 $34.95



$527.89 $50.00 $477.89
 

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The Skeleton case is a real dust collector. Mines 14 and dusting is not on his list of favorite past times :) plus if any metal happens to fall in it it will not be a good outcome.

Ya, I considered that; the review says there is a mesh cover for it to keep stuff out. We live in a dust bowl so constantly having to blow the computers out as it is... food for thought; thanks!
 

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Does that really have 3, 400Gig hard drives that are full?

The Q6600 is decent but on a OEM(read Gateway) motherboard overclocking is not an option and the power supply is under powered for the 8600TS graphics card.

Does he use the TV tuner card?

It's not impossible to change the motherboard in a OEM case but it's usually not a beginners task either the I/O shield in the back will not match up to a retail board and the wiring for the front panel will usually not be marked and have to traced.

For the price and advantage of a mid tower case that accepts a full sized ATX board I think it's well worth it.

I would reuse the Q6600 and overclock it to 2.9-3.0Gig along with the existing hard and DVD drives take a look over these components.

Link Disc List Rebate Cost After Mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128372 GA-EP45-UD3L $89.99 $10.00 $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209 DDR2 800 4Gig $99.99 $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019 Zalman CPU fan $39.98 $39.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&cm_re=corsair-_-17-139-006-_-Product 750TX $107.99 $20.00 $87.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130468&cm_re=GTS250-_-14-130-468-_-Product GTS250 $134.99 $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 Antec 300 Case $54.95 $20.00 $34.95



$527.89 $50.00 $477.89

Hey Thanks Wrench, I will check it all out! (I got to research what over-clock means and how to do it.. lol)

A question thugh I know you dont like the skeleton case, would the parts you recommend fit in it you think? :1angel:
 

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Oh, yeah, he does use the tuner card, what a waste of funds that was... LOL
as for the hard drive being full, I pulled some stuff out and put it in the external hard drive, so he now has a whooping 124 gb free...
 

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You do a lot better for the money on a case. The Skeleton is more of a novelty item than a functional piece of hardware.
 

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Yes they will all fit in it.

Does the current PC have a single hard drive or more then 1, the Gateway site lists it as having 3 400 Gig drives?
No, those are the three types that they put into the GM5643E, just one of em, not all three. The list I posted above is just of possible items in my sons according to their web site as since a refurished, it would not bring up original configuration and build. :4-dontkno
 

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