[technician12]

hi,

I am trying to set up a web server. I have a cable internet connection and there are two routers- one is the cable connected router and the other is the DSL TP-link wireless modem.

It looks like port 80 is disabled from the ISP which I hear they usually do that.

The question is what steps do I need to follow.

do I have to port forward in both the routers?

Also how do I login into the cable router which is Hitron? I can login into the DSL TP-link modem and see the port forwarding option.


any help is appreciated,
thanks

 

[etaf]

Is this a domestic or Business service
Usually on domestic services its against the ISP T&Cs to have a Webservice running

Often the upload speed is quite slow and so would not really work very well for people accessing the website

Also you would need a fixed Public IP address which you would normally pay for - in order for the website to stay live

 

[technician12]

hi,
this is domestic not for professional business. i have static ip though.

 

[etaf]

As a domestic service - you would need to check your ISP T&Cs before setting up the webservice
They would also help with any settings for portforward to your PC that would also need a local fixed IP address, as well as your fixed public IP address

Your customers will be disappointed at the response time of pages - if you have a slow upload speed and a few people looking at the website

Unusual to have a static IP - usually its DHCP service , although the IP stays the same most of the time - But if the modem is turned off for any length of time or the ISP does any work - you would get a new IP address

 

[technician12]

hi,

this is just for learning. i don't have customers. I need to check ISP T&C and I think it is better to change the ISP if they are blocking these ports. But for now I wanted to ask whether I need to port forward on both routers if so?

thanks

 

[MitchConner]

Just my 2p, but from my experience working with ISPs, the usual differences are the contention ratio, reliability and cost. I've work with quite a few businesses (small and large) that have utilised home adsl in some way and haven't been limited in their use

The ISP could block port 80, but i'm not sure why they would bother when you could just NAT that to a different port anyway.

If you have a public address, give it a go and see how you get on.

 

[GentleArrow]

Yes you would need to forward on both routers. That is router1 forwards to the static wan port of router2 and then router2 forwards to the static ip of the server.

If is not forward router 1 and 2 to the servers ip. That will not work but it is a common misconception.

 

[pcride]

Good luck. I have done this in my years of experience. Problems you will face. ITS SUPER SLOW, do a speed test on your internet, check your UPLOAD speed, what ever this speed is is how fast the connect you will DOWNLOAD from the server visiting the webpage. It just doesn't work due to the reasons mentioned above.

Your best bet if your goal is to have a webhost, is to do one through Godaddy or other hosting company. I just found a coupon code to register a .com domain name and economy hosting for 2$ a month. Domain registration and hosting for a year was like $26 USD.

Of course if you are setting this as part of learning the network skillset, then keep trying it because thats how you learn.

In the end its not worth it, you have to worry about security on the server as well as you will get hacked automatically and everything on that server will be at risk. If you are forwarding the port 80, then you are allowing anything to come through.

Also the other issue you are going to have you'll need to configure a domain name service on the server, or register it with DNS services, otherwise you will only be able to access the site by IP address. http://206.78.x.x

Its a good learning experience, but not a great solution if your objective is to set up server for production.

Good luck!

 

[technician12]

Yes you would need to forward on both routers. That is router1 forwards to the static wan port of router2 and then router2 forwards to the static ip of the server.

If is not forward router 1 and 2 to the servers ip. That will not work but it is a common misconception.

i am having problem here. when i use the router gateway i can get into the wireless router connected to my pc, but how do i login into the 2nd router? what would be its admin ip(2nd cable connected router)?

thanks

 

[pcride]

what is your IP on the PC? Or what do you use to access the router?

Try typing in the public IP address. Are you sure your modem is a router /modem and not just a modem? Otherwise you can't access it like your thinking.

If the modem is in fact a router as well, you should be able to tell if it has 4 ports on the back. Then your modem must have DHCP disabled and your router handles DHCP.

 

[technician12]

what is your IP on the PC? Or what do you use to access the router?

Try typing in the public IP address. Are you sure your modem is a router /modem and not just a modem? Otherwise you can't access it like your thinking.

If the modem is in fact a router as well, you should be able to tell if it has 4 ports on the back. Then your modem must have DHCP disabled and your router handles DHCP.

i access the wireless router/modem using 192.168.0.1 using browser but how do i access the other cable router/modem connected to it?

-----[cable router/modem]-------[wireless router/modem]------[PC]
--------------? -----------------------192.168.0.1-----------

thanks!