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Is Hyper-Threading Technology set to enabled in the advanced section of the bios?
Is Hyper-Threading Technology set to enabled in the advanced section of the bios?
Motherboard Stability Issues
I recently bought an Asus p4c800 Deluxe, seeing that it had gotten excellent reviews on many of the sites I checked out, and returning an AX4C-Max by AOpen. I'm having instability issues in areas I'm not totally sure of.
Note: All configurations have used
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Asus P4C800 Deluxe, P4 3.0C 800FSB, Thermaltake Volcano 7+, 550watt Antec powersupply, 80gb Western Digital ATA100 8mb cache, 52x Sony cdrom, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro All-in-Wonder.
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I think I may have isolated the problem to being the RAM that I use.
1st configuration: 1gb (2 x 512mb) pc3200 Geil DDR-Value. One stick of ram in each channel. (Seeing the p4c800 deluxe is capable of dual channel mode)
My attempt to install Windows XP professional resulted in blue screens (Memory dumps), once it had gone into the second portion of the setup, or once it was actually finishing it's settings in windows. This problem continued no matter what way I had positioned the ram. I tried placing them in the first channel, second channel, one in each channel..
2nd configuration: 1gb (2 x 512mb) PNY pc2700, bought from Compusa. They rip you off like crazy. :upset:
At this attempt, Windows XP Professional setup actually made it on through the whole way. Upon making it into windows, I had many driver updates to get to, and once I finished, everything seemed to be running fine until the first system crash, which actually happened while I was updating one of the drivers. The system crashed (just shut down period) while I did one of the following: Downloading file greater than 50-60mb, attempting to install service pack 1, copying files from another computer over the network, watching quicktime movies (half life 2 e3 trailer).
3rd Configuration: 2gb (4 x 512mb) PNY pc2700.
Of course, in this configuration, games seem to fly. I was getting the same ammount of system crashes as with only 1gb of pc2700 ddr.
4th Configuration: 2gb (2 x 512mb PNY pc2700, 2 x 512mb Geil pc3200).
Not only is the system crashing, but I've gotten a few blue screens while booting into Windows XP.
5th Configuration: This one actually seemed to work for a second, but I guess I let my hopes too high. 512mb (1 x 512mb PNY pc2700)
I was able to copy files from another computer, download some larger files off of the internet, but I still wasn't able to install service pack 1. It would crash right at the beginning of it, while sp1 was inspecting the system.
Quite a few times, I would turn on the power to the motherboard, and the motherboard would not startup, and would have the error message (spoken): "System failed due to CPU overclocking". Despite the fact that I did not overclock the cpu even a bit. I had the bios defaults set. Reseting once or twice would have it starting normally. (This error message was present with all of the above memory configurations.)
Once or twice, I had tried running Half-Life in Direct3d mode, which crashed of course, since the Radeon 9700 all in wonder is made for opengl. Windows had given me a 'send error report' message at the start of windows, saying the 9700 pro may have been the cause of the instability I had just had. So, I tried installing my good ole' geforce mx 440 on the p4c800 deluxe, to see if the video card might be the cause of all these crashes. I had still gotten the same crashes. No more, no less.
Can someone please help me?
Note: All configurations have used
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Asus P4C800 Deluxe, P4 3.0C 800FSB, Thermaltake Volcano 7+, 550watt Antec powersupply, 80gb Western Digital ATA100 8mb cache, 52x Sony cdrom, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro All-in-Wonder.
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I think I may have isolated the problem to being the RAM that I use.
1st configuration: 1gb (2 x 512mb) pc3200 Geil DDR-Value. One stick of ram in each channel. (Seeing the p4c800 deluxe is capable of dual channel mode)
My attempt to install Windows XP professional resulted in blue screens (Memory dumps), once it had gone into the second portion of the setup, or once it was actually finishing it's settings in windows. This problem continued no matter what way I had positioned the ram. I tried placing them in the first channel, second channel, one in each channel..
2nd configuration: 1gb (2 x 512mb) PNY pc2700, bought from Compusa. They rip you off like crazy. :upset:
At this attempt, Windows XP Professional setup actually made it on through the whole way. Upon making it into windows, I had many driver updates to get to, and once I finished, everything seemed to be running fine until the first system crash, which actually happened while I was updating one of the drivers. The system crashed (just shut down period) while I did one of the following: Downloading file greater than 50-60mb, attempting to install service pack 1, copying files from another computer over the network, watching quicktime movies (half life 2 e3 trailer
).3rd Configuration: 2gb (4 x 512mb) PNY pc2700.
Of course, in this configuration, games seem to fly. I was getting the same ammount of system crashes as with only 1gb of pc2700 ddr.
4th Configuration: 2gb (2 x 512mb PNY pc2700, 2 x 512mb Geil pc3200).
Not only is the system crashing, but I've gotten a few blue screens while booting into Windows XP.
5th Configuration: This one actually seemed to work for a second, but I guess I let my hopes too high. 512mb (1 x 512mb PNY pc2700)
I was able to copy files from another computer, download some larger files off of the internet, but I still wasn't able to install service pack 1. It would crash right at the beginning of it, while sp1 was inspecting the system.
Quite a few times, I would turn on the power to the motherboard, and the motherboard would not startup, and would have the error message (spoken): "System failed due to CPU overclocking". Despite the fact that I did not overclock the cpu even a bit. I had the bios defaults set. Reseting once or twice would have it starting normally. (This error message was present with all of the above memory configurations.)
Once or twice, I had tried running Half-Life in Direct3d mode, which crashed of course, since the Radeon 9700 all in wonder is made for opengl. Windows had given me a 'send error report' message at the start of windows, saying the 9700 pro may have been the cause of the instability I had just had. So, I tried installing my good ole' geforce mx 440 on the p4c800 deluxe, to see if the video card might be the cause of all these crashes. I had still gotten the same crashes. No more, no less.
Can someone please help me?
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Did you happen to run Windows XP professional or any version of Windows XP?
Apparantly, every version of Windows below Windows Server 2003 cannot use 2 gigabytes or memory or more. I've signed up for the evaluation of it, and am expecting it to come pretty soon. Also, Linux will run 2 gb or memory as well. I'm gonna try em out.
I'm pretty sure it's the operating system now. The last motherboard I had (the one I shipped back for the p4c800 deluxe I have now) was an AOpen AX4C-MAX. Whatever I tried on that one, I could not get Windows XP installed on it period, or Windows 2000. (Since they're both practically the same, I would suppose that's right) However, I was able to run Windows 98 without many problems. I did have compatibility issues with some things. I was able to get everything on the motherboard working (gigabit lan driver, sound driver), but I wasn't able to play some games (like my Doom 3 alpha :dead, use some applications, etc.
I'm going to be trying out the Windows Server 2003 evaluation to see whether it's just that the motherboard hates Windows XP.
Apparantly, every version of Windows below Windows Server 2003 cannot use 2 gigabytes or memory or more. I've signed up for the evaluation of it, and am expecting it to come pretty soon. Also, Linux will run 2 gb or memory as well. I'm gonna try em out.
I'm pretty sure it's the operating system now. The last motherboard I had (the one I shipped back for the p4c800 deluxe I have now) was an AOpen AX4C-MAX. Whatever I tried on that one, I could not get Windows XP installed on it period, or Windows 2000. (Since they're both practically the same, I would suppose that's right) However, I was able to run Windows 98 without many problems. I did have compatibility issues with some things. I was able to get everything on the motherboard working (gigabit lan driver, sound driver), but I wasn't able to play some games (like my Doom 3 alpha :dead
, use some applications, etc.I'm going to be trying out the Windows Server 2003 evaluation to see whether it's just that the motherboard hates Windows XP.
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Alec, I just noticed that you posted this problem in another thread before you came here and highjacked boilthechicken's thread. This is considered bad forum etiquette so try to refrain from double posting in the future..................Thank You.........
sorry
:tongue2: didnt meant to highjack, i thought information might be useful and this problem relate to both memory and motherboard. ha. anyway sorry about highjacking:tongue2:
:tongue2: didnt meant to highjack, i thought information might be useful
and this problem relate to both memory and motherboard. ha. anyway sorry about highjacking:tongue2:Ranger - I'm not exactly sure whether or not it's with one of the new 12v plugs or not, but I have had the same or similar issue when booting up. Everything seemed to be working, except the thing wouldn't post at all. You wouldn't hear the normal beep that happens right when the bios pops up, but everything else would be running (you can hear the hard drive starting up, fans, etc). It actually still happens sometimes, when I have to use the ole' restart button. That's actually how I fix it sometimes as well. Before you go out and get another psu, I would suggest you email or call up the manufacturer, and tell them about your problem ... unless it's too late. bleh
Oxide - What I would do first is pull off all hardware but the cpu (w/ cpu cooler of course), one chip of ram, video, and hard drive. My motherboard once had a problem with an SBLive sound card I installed, and my post reporter would chant something that sounded like, "AGP asfdasldkjfasldfkj;asdflkjasdf;lkjas;ldfjlkasdjflkajsdf;ljasdf;lkj." That's the only thing I could understand from it.
Well, I haven't had many issues with the p4c800 deluxe and my p4 3.0c in a while. This is what I think fixed the problem: Installing new bios, formatting hard drive, reinstalling operating system. After formatting, I had installed Windows 2000 professional, and from there, upgraded to my copy of XP professional. I believe the bios version that I upgraded to was 1007. I hadn't really experienced any issues at all at the time, other than the somewhat slow speed (HD) and all the clutter on my hard drive, thanks to my laziness. From there, did a "quick-format" through the XP installation, installed Windows XP professional (Corporate edition "fckgw-rhq..." hehehe), and have been using Mcafee virusscan 7.0. Other than that issue with the SBLive! sound card, everything else has been running perfectly. Haven't seen one blue screen.
Oxide - What I would do first is pull off all hardware but the cpu (w/ cpu cooler of course), one chip of ram, video, and hard drive. My motherboard once had a problem with an SBLive sound card I installed, and my post reporter would chant something that sounded like, "AGP asfdasldkjfasldfkj;asdflkjasdf;lkjas;ldfjlkasdjflkajsdf;ljasdf;lkj." That's the only thing I could understand from it.
Well, I haven't had many issues with the p4c800 deluxe and my p4 3.0c in a while. This is what I think fixed the problem: Installing new bios, formatting hard drive, reinstalling operating system. After formatting, I had installed Windows 2000 professional, and from there, upgraded to my copy of XP professional. I believe the bios version that I upgraded to was 1007. I hadn't really experienced any issues at all at the time, other than the somewhat slow speed (HD) and all the clutter on my hard drive, thanks to my laziness. From there, did a "quick-format" through the XP installation, installed Windows XP professional (Corporate edition "fckgw-rhq..." hehehe), and have been using Mcafee virusscan 7.0. Other than that issue with the SBLive! sound card, everything else has been running perfectly. Haven't seen one blue screen
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