[baller43]

so i have a really lame laptop when it comes to graphics, cause i only have a gma 900 chipset, which has no vertex shaders whatsoever. My computer is an HP, compaq nc 6220 and has one express card slot.

My solution to lame graphics capabilities would be getting external video card, so i looked online and found "vidock" on "villageinstruments.com." It looked all good to me except one thing. It requires another display, and does not use my laptop screen :banghead:. I was looking on youtube an someone said that is is possible for certain NVIDIA cards to be able to go from the vidocik back to the laptop. Since my computer to my knowledge does not have express card slot 2.0, i am going to go with least expensive, which is vidock 3. The graphics card i was looking at getting for the vidock is this gt 440

so i am wondering if i can go back from the vidock to the laptop screen so i don't have to use another moniter (which i don't have :sad: )

or alternatively is it possible to buy some other extension or something so that i can go to my laptop


Main objective is to only have to use my laptop screen and no other screen.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

 

[emosun]

Ok for your compaq nc6220 , that would be a HUGE waste of money.

People have played with the idea of external graphics options for laptops for a LONG time. The number one problem is you have to get the video back into the laptop which simply isn't going to happen without an external capture or tv card.

So now you have to buy a 200$ vidock 3 , a videocard , and a capture card.

All for a laptop that isn't worth even 100$. The performance will be very slow since it's all usb based , it will be overcomplicated and expensive. Your cpu probably won't be able to handle running the capture software and the game at the same time.

You would be MUCH better off buying a desktop or laptop that actually had a good gpu in it to begin with then try to make your current laptop last any longer.

 

[baller43]

i think my HP is better than described on most websites, i have two 2.0GHz Pentium M processors. Anyway, after searching the internet what seemed like forever, i just started watching random youtube videos of people who used some type of external graphics card, i found a dude who had a Dyi which used his laptop screen, and he posted a link to how he had done his diy setup.


In the link i found this:

[QUOTE] Can I make this work using just my notebook's LCD display?
Spoiler : 
The desktop video card outputs to it's HDMI/VGA/DVI connector. The notebook's LCD display uses a LVDS input on your systemboard with no external jack to connect to it. Meaning then they cannot be physically connected together unless adapt a US$30 ebay kits allowing external input to the internal LCD as [URL="http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/17/98801"]discussed[/URL], which only quite an advanced user would ever attempt.

Another more elegant solution would use a HDMI input expresscard as described at [URL="http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/593813-play-ps3-x360-laptop-screen-using-new-hdmi-input-express-card.html#post7693279"]Play PS3/X360 on laptop screen using new HDMI Input Express Card.[/URL] . Though current costs of $170 for the item makes it unattractive AND you'd need to then do a mPCIe eGPU implementation.

There are however these less drastic ways of getting your accelerated graphics card to render to the internal LCD, all of which will have lower performance than when running using an external LCD:
NVIDIA [URL="http://forum.notebookreview.com/6542661-post1222.html"]Optimus driver [/URL]provides a transparent internal LCD cloning mode for systems with a 4500MHD/HD/HD3000 iGPU primary video when using a NVIDIA GTS4xx/GTX4xx card.

Use [URL="http://www.lucidlogix.com/product-virtu.html"]Lucidlogix virtu[/URL] drivers to provide transparent output using the internal LCD if you have a Sandy Bridge cpu.

[URL="http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-egpu-experiences-51.html#post6193337"]Ultramon/Chung Gun method[/URL] can clone from the desktop eGPU's window to the internal LCD for windowed games/apps. 

USB 3.0 framegrabbers have sufficient bandwidth to capture the image from the desktop eGPU and pipe it back to your notebook's display.
It is not feasible to use USB 2.0 framegrabbers. The desktop video card outputs HDMI/S-Video. To try to clone the output from the desktop video card via a USB frame grabber can be done, but consider say 1280x800x32-bit = 4MB per image. If gaming at 30FPS that's 120MB/s bandwidth required. USB 2.0 is 480Mbps (60MB/s in *best case* scenario.. more like 30MB/s in real-life).[/QUOTE]

so is it possible to use any of these techniques? most easily would be NVIDIA Optimus drivers. i'm pretty sure optimus are compatible with that graphics card i mentioned, and hope it will be compatible with my system.

I was looking at more cost effective Diy vidock, but none were easy to do that had their own enclosure.

Anyway, thanks for responding, i hope u can find an easy solution with the links in the quotes

 

[Tyree]

You have one CPU with two cores.

 

[baller43]

i have a sonoma platform, which has a socket 479, which uses a pentium M with one processor. I checked through my system with different stuff and i have pentium M with on processor, but for some reason my system has 2 processors which is really wierd. I can tell it has 2 processors also, i had another laptop with one processor which was really really slow.


Anyway, i searched around more, and obviously my laptop does not have optimus software. so i was going to try using the hdmi to vido capture express card slot to get the vidock back to my laptop display, even though it expensive im gonna do it.

so, will it work with the hdmi to express card slot if i get a mini hdmi to large hdmi adapter for the gpu i mentiond earlier? or an dvi to hdmi adapter?

i would be asking this on notbookreview.com but for some reason my browser does not show the security pivture thing that u type in

 

[emosun]

It might be multithreaded but all pentium M's are single core. The pentium M is simply a slower low power alternative to the pentium 4. I still think it's not going to be enough.

That being said, I still am going to recommend you save your money. A computer with a proper card installed correctly will be much faster and cheaper then jimmy rigging one to your usb ports on your older laptop.

I'm not saying it's impossible , just overcomplicating a simple problem.

 

[baller43]

so basically my best bet is to just use an external monitor? ugh...

why don't laptop manufacturers make display inputs for laptops.

seriously

 

[emosun]

Because it's a laptop. It's made to be a portable computer , not game console , not a movie editing studio. Just internet on the go , and dvd's when your on a plane.

Your seriously better off investing in GOOD hardware rather then a series of adapters for your old hardware.

 

[baller43]

would this work as a laptop input?

https://www.motu.com/store_products/accessories/hdx-sdi-expresscard34-adapter-kit/body.html/

 

[emosun]

It appears your machine has a pcmcia slot not an express card slot.

 

[baller43]

OMG, wow, im feelin lame. I do have a docking station which has express card slots

I just found how hard it is to input into my laptop display. HDCP is really lame. I think that since im going from HDCP graphics card to laptop i need to have the input be HDCP compliant. I think....so even if i had that express card i mentioned i don't know if it would work cause it might not support HDCP, or maybe it does...

to go from HDCP cord to pcmcia input i would then require HDfury. which is supposed to be legal

so which has best resolution?
vga
USB
fierwire
S-video
NTSC

So i would need to go from Dvi to HDfury, to vga, to either USB, s-video, fierwire, NTSC?
so would the resolution be good? ......or bad?

 

[baller43]

oh another question. If i buy a video card that has a vga or s-video output, will that apply to HDCP? i think no...but i want to know the answer. So i could go directly from s-video to s-video, or vga to USB, firewire, ect.

 

[emosun]

You already have my recommendation I'll let someone else take it from here.

 

[baller43]

please just answer just this last question, does a HDCP ready video card send HDCP through vga?

i could kinda tell u weren't that interested in this. But thanks for responding to me for as long as u did.

 

[emosun]

Vga is an analog signal that was invented long before hdcp , so my assumption is if you converted vga to component it probably won't have hdcp.