I think you can never have to many certs..
Is it bad to have too many COMPTIA Certifications?
Hello Everyone.
After I got after my MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician certification I would like to get the COMPTIA Linux + Certification. Many companies around Washington State are asking for people to be familiar with Linux, at least that's what I have been noticing as I apply for part-time jobs to be a PC Technician. Many companies use Linux as there backup server, which I can understand because at my internship class (Not paid) we used Linux as our backup server so I got maybe an hour into the Operating System before the quarter ended.
This fall quarter I will be doing the second part of the internship program and should get to use Linux as I become a more valuable student to my peers. My main question is after I get the MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician should I go for the COMPTIA Linux + Certification?
My biggest worry is forgetting everything I have learned since I am not using it in a daily use yet.
After I got after my MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician certification I would like to get the COMPTIA Linux + Certification. Many companies around Washington State are asking for people to be familiar with Linux, at least that's what I have been noticing as I apply for part-time jobs to be a PC Technician. Many companies use Linux as there backup server, which I can understand because at my internship class (Not paid) we used Linux as our backup server so I got maybe an hour into the Operating System before the quarter ended.
This fall quarter I will be doing the second part of the internship program and should get to use Linux as I become a more valuable student to my peers. My main question is after I get the MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician should I go for the COMPTIA Linux + Certification?
My biggest worry is forgetting everything I have learned since I am not using it in a daily use yet.
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it depends on your experience level. See some certs are designed to get you into IT and some certs are designed to show your experience level.
Starting certs are A+,N+ and MCDST plus the MCTS upgrades and MCITP. YOu could also do Linux+ but beyond those is a no no if you have no experience because you will over certify yourself.
Starting certs are A+,N+ and MCDST plus the MCTS upgrades and MCITP. YOu could also do Linux+ but beyond those is a no no if you have no experience because you will over certify yourself.
I think you can never have to many certs..
I strongly disagree. If you talk to IT professionals in the field (most who have certs), even they will tell you that beginners are wasting their time with Certs. Certs is not equivalent for experience and it's not equivalent for a true education.
Now with that said, it doesn't hurt to have certs except your wallet. Get your degree (AAS to start) and work towards a BS degree. Pick up an entry level job and pick up a cert along the way.
For someone that has no degree, little experience, testing for 5 certs is a completely waste of time because nobody will hire you.
you dont need a degree to get into IT what you need is experience and the right amount and type of certs.I strongly disagree. If you talk to IT professionals in the field (most who have certs), even they will tell you that beginners are wasting their time with Certs. Certs is not equivalent for experience and it's not equivalent for a true education.
Now with that said, it doesn't hurt to have certs except your wallet. Get your degree (AAS to start) and work towards a BS degree. Pick up an entry level job and pick up a cert along the way.
For someone that has no degree, little experience, testing for 5 certs is a completely waste of time because nobody will hire you.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. Now I say this based on where you live. I live in Minneapolis/St Paul. We have a big epicenter of big companies here: IBM, 3M, Best Buy, General Mills, Target, SuperValue, United Health, Medtronics. All have giant IT departments and you will NOT even sniff their front door without a degree. Trust me. I've tried. Even if you know someone from the inside, you won't get an interview.you dont need a degree to get into IT what you need is experience and the right amount and type of certs.
Even if you have 10+ years of experience and a handful of certs, you're competing with others that have the same PLUS they have their degrees and advanced degrees. You will lose 10 out of 10 times.
Now if you live in some small city, then you would be right. A BS degree is not necessary.
I have a very good friend of mine that works as an IT consultant. His resume includes a BS in IT, MBA, Masters in MIS, 8-10 certifications and over 15 years of experience. He works from home as a consultant to the school district here in MN. He makes well over 6 figures. Every time I tell him that people think you can get a job with certifications only, he laughs.
You can do a search on Career Builder, Monster, Dice, etc. Look at all the IT jobs. I doubt you will find any that doesn't say "BS Degree Required".
I would say that yep you would need a degree with that many big companies like that. But its not always neccessary even if there are a few big companies about your area.
In the Minneapolis/St. Paul and surrounding burbs, you HAVE to have your BS degree or your phone ain't ringing. I can't put it any simpler than that. I've seen first hand how it's happening. Not only am I looking for an IT gig but my friend who's been a laid off Network Admin guy is also.I would say that yep you would need a degree with that many big companies like that. But its not always neccessary even if there are a few big companies about your area.
He's more qualified than me experienced wise, BUT he doesn't have his BS degree. He's close. He needs another 20-30 credits, which he's getting right now online. In the meantime, his phone has not rung once in over 30 apps he's submitted for jobs he could do blindfolded.
maybe he needs to change his resume.
I know an English guy who left school at 16 he is now 25 and emigrated to the US last year. He has no degree and earns $250000 a year in IT consultancy
If I am correct he actually lives in Minneapolis.
I know an English guy who left school at 16 he is now 25 and emigrated to the US last year. He has no degree and earns $250000 a year in IT consultancy
If I am correct he actually lives in Minneapolis.
My friend's resume is pretty full of experience. But he has them with multiple companies doing the same thing. He has worked for 4-5 companies in the last 14 years.
That might be part of the problem. However, his biggest problem is not having a degree. He can't even apply for jobs because he doesn't meet the qualification.
Your friend is the exception and not the rule. If he was to apply right now, his resume would never get a glance. He may have 20 years of experience but so does someone else and they have a degree.
That might be part of the problem. However, his biggest problem is not having a degree. He can't even apply for jobs because he doesn't meet the qualification.
Your friend is the exception and not the rule. If he was to apply right now, his resume would never get a glance. He may have 20 years of experience but so does someone else and they have a degree.
I think everyone has their own opinions and situations. I think it depends on resume as well as experience. Certifications wont hurt at all, but I think just a degree wont do. Unless they are willing to train and train you. Think it allll depends...
That tells you that to get your dream job in IT, you can't just rely on one thing: degree, certs, or experience. You will need all of them and more. Why? Because you'll be competing over this job with me, my friend, and hundreds of others for the same job.
experience always wins, you cant tell me that someone with 5 years experience as a server admin would get turned down over someone with a degree and some or no experience.
If it is like that where you live then some of the HR depts in those companies need shaking up.
If it is like that where you live then some of the HR depts in those companies need shaking up.
In a perfect world, of course experience wins. But we don't live in a perfect world.experience always wins, you cant tell me that someone with 5 years experience as a server admin would get turned down over someone with a degree and some or no experience.
If it is like that where you live then some of the HR depts in those companies need shaking up.
As I told you before, this is an employer's market. For every job, there will be 100s of candidates. That's happening HERE in this market. I don't know where you are.
In an employer market, nobody...I mean NOBODY gets a call with just 5 years experience and no degree. Nobody gets a call if they just got their Comp Sci degree and no experience. In fact, if you don't have exactly the 10 things they want on their checklist, you're not getting a call.
Sure. You have experience. You can do the job with your eyes closed but so will the next guy. But he has his degree so he will be preferred over you. It's that simple.
That's why what I said is true. In order to be competitive, you need all of it: degree, advanced degree, certs, and experience.
But if you're looking for low level, Tier 1 support jobs, all of them require a degree. So if you don't have it, you won't get it. You won't even get a chance to submit your resume. Companies are willing to train, even those with experience. So if I was an HR rep/technical recruiter, which I was, I would hire the kid out of college with no experience and train him for the job. I'd have to train the kid with 5 years experience anyways. He may no a little bit more but he will still need training.
totally disagree matey, I have no degree I get job offers all the time but I am happy where I am and only have two years experience in system support and basic network administration.
Well good for you mate. You must have some special talents then. Just be glad you're not in Minnesota looking for an IT job.totally disagree matey, I have no degree I get job offers all the time but I am happy where I am and only have two years experience in system support and basic network administration.
3 certs and no degree and I get job offers all the time and even get offered jobs that require security clearance. FBI has even offered. You do not at all need a degree. There are a lot of entry-level jobs out there that only require you have a high-school diploma, as there are a lot of jobs above entry-level that only require experience and/or certifications as opposed to degrees and/or a minimum or 1-2 years experience.
Agreed people are obviously applying for positions that are beyond them.3 certs and no degree and I get job offers all the time and even get offered jobs that require security clearance. FBI has even offered. You do not at all need a degree. There are a lot of entry-level jobs out there that only require you have a high-school diploma, as there are a lot of jobs above entry-level that only require experience and/or certifications as opposed to degrees and/or a minimum or 1-2 years experience.
I am not gifted or anything I was an average B/C grade student but I have an aptitude for computers and technology. In my experience its aptitude and attitude that gets you jobs not braincells.
its aptitude and attitude that gets you jobs not braincells.
I'd say that you can't have good positive aptitude and attitude without alot of braincells, but the internet has proven to me that the more braincells you have, the worse your attitude gets XD
Honestly it all depends on the employer as well as the job applicant. I had no experience what so ever and I got a IS Support job. I didnt know anything on the support side, but I have 10 years of computer experience in different areas. I have a degree in web design and i have been working with computers since I was 14. Whether it was making a website or just emailing, scanning faxing, researching.. troubleshooting my own printers ect.. I did ask my ex boss why he hired me if it was my degree or my experience and he said he picked the experience over the degree.
So it can also be the employer... but the way I look at it since I am unemployed and I am required to look for jobs I apply to whatever position I think I can do.. Just because I may not have the complete experience I know I can do it. But of course they have their requirements... It doesnt hurt to apply anyways is the way I look at it.
Now that I just got my a+ cert I have even more of a chance because now I already have a couple years experience - support wise, software support and a little hardware support plus the cert makes me look some what good... but Im sure for some jobs out there for some employers thats not good enough.
Again, I believe its not just experience or just your certs or a degree. Its a big job market and there is alot of things you can do.. but I think experience plays a big role as well as certs and degrees after. Everybody will have their own opinion.......
So it can also be the employer... but the way I look at it since I am unemployed and I am required to look for jobs I apply to whatever position I think I can do.. Just because I may not have the complete experience I know I can do it. But of course they have their requirements... It doesnt hurt to apply anyways is the way I look at it.
Now that I just got my a+ cert I have even more of a chance because now I already have a couple years experience - support wise, software support and a little hardware support plus the cert makes me look some what good... but Im sure for some jobs out there for some employers thats not good enough.
Again, I believe its not just experience or just your certs or a degree. Its a big job market and there is alot of things you can do.. but I think experience plays a big role as well as certs and degrees after. Everybody will have their own opinion.......
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