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I am trying to install a 2nd hard drive in a Compaq Presario 5000 with a partitioned master hard drive (split between C: and D:).
The new HD is a Western Digital Caviar 14300.

But so far, I've been having problems:
Upon boot, I either get the message that no operating system has been detected or find in Windows that the new drive is not recognized. What happens between these two options depends on the configuration of the jumper settings.

I would like the new drive to be the slave and the old drive to be the master, but when I use this setup Windows cannot seem to recognize the new drive. It is not listed under My Computer or in the Device Manager and the auto-detect of new hardware does not pick it up.

When I set both drives to slave, or the new drive to master and the old drive to slave, I get the error message from DOS that there is no operating system.
The confusing part is that the old drive was originally set, before I messed with it, to slave.

Is there any way to add a second hard drive to my computer, and if so, how do I set it up? Is there some trick to the jumper settings, or some utility on my computer needed to recognize the new drive?

Any help is appreciated.
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Welcome to TSF:

The first thing you are going to have to do is get your boot drive (OS on it ) to accept the setting of MASTER

you will need to make sure your boot drive is at the end of the IDE cable and the opposite end of the same cable is in the blue primary IDE connector @ the mobo

make sure the jumper settings for the boot drive are set to Master then / upon restart enter bios and check to see if bios detects the boot drive as the primary master / set the boot order to boot from the primary master as the second device i.e. your boot order should look like this
1st = floppy A
2nd = primary master
3rd = cd-rom drive

if these settings occur ????? then connect your other drive jumpered as slave ??? but dont add slave until you can boot your computer and enter bios and see the boot drive as primary master and booting !!!!!

if this requirement does not happen then clear the CMOS / and try again

clearing CMOS

shutdown computer
remove pluig from electrical wall socket
remove cmos battery from socket (shiny thin watch looking battery about one inch in diameter on motherboard)
leave battery removed for one hour

reverse above steps / and fire up computer
enter bios / and choose "load default settings"
then exit bios / dont forget you must find the save changes and exit bios command

print this out before you begin / these steps should cure your problem.

PS / if you dont things resolved prior to the CMOS clearing then unplug the salve drive / during the cmos dump we dotn want the salve to be seen my the computer / dont connect it during the restore bios defaults ~~ exit and save changes - after you have restarted the computer from the bios defaults steps do a shutdown and reconnect the power plug to the hard drive then fire back up ????

let us know how your progress / ask more questions if needed

regards

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something else you could try too: jumper both drives as "cable select", making sure that the older drive is at the end of the cable (position for master drive) and the new drive is connected to the other IDE cable connection. Some systems recognize cable select better than master/slave (for whatever reason).

I ran into the same issue you are having on a customer's computer I was working on. I ended up having to format the drive to NTFS using PartitionMagic in DOS and mess with the BIOS to force it to recognize the drive.

How old is the computer? One potential (yet kind of unlikely) issue might be that the PC doesn't have enough power (power supply wattage) to run 2 hard drives. If that is the case, upgrading the power supply is the only way to fix that issue.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions. I will try the BIOS setup and the cable select solutions. If that doesn't work, I'll re-post.

My computer is fairly old - it was purchased in 2000. I've done a few other upgrades, but not the power supply. Do you think a Presario 5000 (667Mhz, 192MB) would have an inadquate power supply for two HDs?
 

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Does it have one or two CD drives in it? If it has one CD drive, then I would think it could handle a 2nd hard drive, but if it has 2 CD drives, then it might have a power problem with 2 hard drives also. I think those Presario 5000 systems only had a 150-200W power supply, which is kinda low nowadays. Most systems now have 250-300W power supplies.
 

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Unplug AC first! before working inside the case.

Disconnect the drive with windows, setup the new drive as single (master) and boot from win98 startup floppy.

Use Fdisk to partiton the drive, do not make it active ( it's not going to be a bootable drive). Reboot and format the partition(s), format c: format d: etc... no additional paramaters needed (like /sys or /q).

Reconnect the windows drive:
CS jumpers: master drive on end connector, slave on middle connector.

WD jumper settings

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make sure bios ide settings for primary ide master and slave are AUTO detect.
 
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