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I'm trying to connect my main hard drive(Windows XP), extra hard drive(storage of data, music, etc.) combo drive, CD-ROM drive to my "Master" and "Secondary" IDE cables on my motherboard, how do I connect all 4 components and what Jumper Settings do I use? when I connect the extra hard drive onto the IDE cable, the computer doesn't recognize the drive but the other main drive is recognized, when I disconnect the drive the computer boots up fine w/o problems, the drive has been working fine till I installed the combo drive, I need help here please, thanks :sayyes:
 

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Make sure the drive at the end ot the cable (Black plug) is set to master. the second plug (Gray) drive should be set to Slave. The (Blue Plug) to the Motherboard. Some controler will allow you to set them all to cable select you could try that first. There should be a diagram on the drive indicating which is which.
 

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first of all I would connect the 2 hard drives to the master ide and i would check to make sure that the first HD that has windows on it has the jumper pins on the rear set to master and the second HD has the jumper pi set to slave, do the same with the seconary IDE and make sure 1 rom is set to master and the other to slave.

If the second HD has not been formatted you may have to formatt it before you can use it
 

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blackduck30 said:
first of all I would connect the 2 hard drives to the master ide and i would check to make sure that the first HD that has windows on it has the jumper pins on the rear set to master and the second HD has the jumper pi set to slave, do the same with the seconary IDE and make sure 1 rom is set to master and the other to slave.

If the second HD has not been formatted you may have to formatt it before you can use it
True from the sound You will be burning from the HDD to cd/DVD?
If you copy cd's make sure you have it copy to HDD first it will be faster and less prone to errors.
 

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the 2 IDE cables are replacements so no different colors plus, just black color, the hard drive has been working fine prior to me installing the combo drive, here's what I did Master IDE cable(main drive-top end plug, master jumper setting)>(extra drive-middle plug, slave)>bottom end plug(motherboard), Seconadary IDE plug(combo drive-top end plug, master setting)>(CD-ROM drive-middle plug, slave)> bottom end plug(motherboard)
the computer had boot up problems till I disconnected the extra drive,
should I try the cable select setting instead of slave for the extra drive, would that make it all work then? thanks
 

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yes and yes, I've been using the 2 cables ever since my computer was built by someone, I purchased a new longer one from Radio Shack, so it's not the cables, my thinking it's the Jumper Setting on the Extra Hard Drive, should I set it "Cable Select" instead of "Slave" on the Master IDE with the Main Drive as "Master"? thanks
 

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oldmn said:
Is this the CABLE you got? could you check the part # please.


there's no link showing up?
but the part # is 278-780 Internal IDE Cable (connects 1 or 2 IDE cables 40-conductor ribbon)
I don't think it's any of the cables, I'm using the computer as you can see, so the main drive works as does the combo drive and cd-rom drive, the 2nd drive is not connected at all, all 3 components are shown in "my computer" screen, should I set the Jumper to "Cable Select" instead of "Slave", would that make it work properly? thanks
 

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oldmn said:
That is a 40 pin/wire cable you need a 40 pin 80 wire cable with the new HDD. These have the colored connectors and will be marked ATA100/133 if they do not they are the 40 wire. Sorry :4-dontkno


yes I have that and using it right now, did u see my post above yours? should I try that Jumper setting? thanks
 

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In my rigs I use cable select. It's fine because all my drives are ATA133 and are different capacities. I can mentally visualize the layout more easily.
 

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A 40 conducter ribbon is not an 80 conducter ribbon unless they have changed the way you add up these days.
Look at the cable and try and count the nuber of wires that make up the cable and not the number of pins in the plug
 

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kodi said:
A 40 conducter ribbon is not an 80 conducter ribbon unless they have changed the way you add up these days.
Look at the cable and try and count the nuber of wires that make up the cable and not the number of pins in the plug


all 3 IDE cables that I have and using 2 of them in computer now are 40 conductor ribbon , I don't think it's the IDE cables but I think it's the Jumper setting on the 2nd drive that is preventing it from operating and not letting the computer boot up properly, should I try "Cable Select" on both drives on the Primary side of the motherboard or "Master" on the main drive and "Cable Select" on the 2nd drive? thanks
 

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bnm81002 said:
all 3 IDE cables that I have and using 2 of them in computer now are 40 conductor ribbon
You keep saying 40 conductor cable, I will say this only once more.
MOST new drives must have 80 wire cables to work,get the right cable then try messing with the jumpers
 

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kodi said:
You keep saying 40 conductor cable, I will say this only once more.
MOST new drives must have 80 wire cables to work,get the right cable then try messing with the jumpers
ATA 33/66 will work with the 40 wire ATA100/133 WILL NOT.
Good luck Guys.:wave:
 

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kodi said:
You keep saying 40 conductor cable, I will say this only once more.
MOST new drives must have 80 wire cables to work,get the right cable then try messing with the jumpers

both drives are not new, so the IDE cables are fine, or how else is the main drive working then?
could the problem be the BIOS? how can I set it w/o the 2nd drive connected to the IDE cable?
 

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blackduck30 said:
first of all I would connect the 2 hard drives to the master ide and i would check to make sure that the first HD that has windows on it has the jumper pins on the rear set to master and the second HD has the jumper pi set to slave, do the same with the seconary IDE and make sure 1 rom is set to master and the other to slave.

the BIOS sees the components as "Primary"- main hard drive(Master) and 2nd hard drive(Slave) and "Secondary"- combo drive(Master) and CD-ROM drive(Slave) and also shows up in the Device Manager in the System Information but now I can't access the 2nd drive, I get an error message,
F:\ is not accessible
the file or directory is corrupted and unreadable
what can I do to solve this problem? thanks
 
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