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Problem 1) The PC is a Windows 7, 8GB RAM, desktop with Avast Antivirus, and Zone Alarm firewall. A few weeks back, I moved from Talk Talk to Virgin, and got a much faster download speed (50Mb/s). My PC doesn't have a wi-fi built in, so I had to buy a PCI wi-fi adaptor (made by Tenda), installed it, installed the driver from the CD, it detected the Virgin signal, I entered the passkey, and everything was great. I tried a couple of broadband speed websites (such as Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test and Broadband Speed Checker - THE UK's No.1 Broadband Speed Test) and they reported that my speed was 50Mb/s

But a few days back, the internet connection started to run slowly, so I tried the broadband websites, and they said I was only getting ~5Mb/s. I've not changed anything hardware or software-wise on the PC (other than the manditory updates to Windows and virus killer, etc).

I used my tablet (w-fi, of course) and it said that I was still getting 50Mb/s, so the problem was obviously with my desktop.

So I phoned Virgin, who couldn't find a fault over the phone, so they sent a bloke around, who checked the router (it was working, plus his device got the full speed over the wi-fi from it), and he connected a cable from the router to my desktop (which I couldn't do, since the desktop is upstairs, the router downstairs), and even by wire the desktop only got 5Mb/s, even though when stood next to the desktop, both my tablet and his phone/whatever got full speed via wire-less. So presumably the problem is not the wire-less PCI card or it's driver, since even if we use a cable then the desktop still only gets 5Mb/s.

I've uninstalled Avast! Antivirus (although I didn't think it would be that), and it's not helped, and I disabled Zone Alarm, and still no change.

Any ideas would be appreciated.


Problem 2) Anyway, every couple of months I create a 1:1 copy of my C: drive using Acronis Home Image (I used to use Norton Ghost years ago, until I discovered Achronis). So I thought I'd just put on my latest C: drive back up, and if it read the broadband at full speed, then I'd use that installation, and update the programs manually.

So I recovered the last backup, from a month or so back, and everything worked except the net connection. There was no wi-fi icon in the Windows 7 task bar (the ascending slopes made up of vertical columns), just the square with a plug icon that you get pre-wireless era. And when I try to access wi-fi, I get told that there are no wireless connections available. The driver for the PCI wi-fi dongle was installed (I must have made this backup not much after I went over to Virgin) but Windows wasn't showing the wi-fi icon.

I uninstalled and reinstalled the driver, but still no joy. Windows says that the device (the PCI network connector) is working perfectly, and Device Manager marks it as working (no yellow exclamation mark).

I went to my two earlier backups, neither of which have the wi-fi card driver installed, so I installed it, with the same result; no wi-fi icon in the task bar, and Windows says it can't find any wireless connections. So of course I though that the wi-fi card might have broke, or had some sort of setting disabled, but fortunately, before I'd reinstalled the backups of C:, I made a backup today, with the problem I describe in problem 1, so I reinstalled that backup (from today), and now the wi-fi card is working, although for whatever reason the PC is still only getting 5Mb/s.

So I installed the earlier backups, and no matter what I do, I can't get the wireless to work with those. And it *definitely* worked in the first backup before I made that backup (it worked and so I decided to make that backup, I wouldn't have made that backup back then if the wi-fi hadn't been working, I'd have fixed the problem first), so I don't know what the problem is.

Again, any light shone on this problem would be much appreciated.



Details of the adapter are:

802.11n.Wireless LAN



PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_3060&SUBSYS_30601814&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_3060&SUBSYS_30601814
PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_3060&CC_028000
PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_3060&CC_0280


Device Type: Network adapters

Manufacturer: Ralink Technology, Corp.

Location: PCI bus 1, device 8, function 0




Driver Provider: Ralink Technology, Corp.

Driver Date: 19/04/2011

Driver Version: 3.2.1.0




When I use

CONTROL PANEL > DEVICE MANAGER > NETWORK ADAPTERS > 802.11n. Wireless Lan Card

in both backups (the modern one I made today, which is of course the one where broadband works but only at 5Mb/s, and also the backup from a month or so ago, where the broadband can't be read for some reason) then I get the same values in all of the tabs, except that the IRQ is listed in the

CONTROL PANEL > DEVICE MANAGER > NETWORK ADAPTERS > 802.11n. Wireless Lan Card > RESOURCES

tab in the working (but slow) backup as 0x00000013 (19) whereas in the broadband-not-working backup, the value is 0x00000011 (17)

Windows won't let me edit the entry (in the tab's box, I don't know where else to edit it).

Can anyone help, please.




Apologies if I haven't explained this too clearly. Basically,

1. For some reason, my desktop has stopped receiving broadband (via wireless) at 50MB/s, it's now around 5MB/s. Other wireless devices still receive it at 50MB/s, so it's not the router, it's the desktop (as confirmed by the engineer who Virgin sent, and who wasn't allowed to make changes to my PC, only to the router). Even wired up to the router, the desktop only reads 5MB/s, which makes me think it's not the wireless itself at fault.

2. I've done a clean boot (from an Avast! CD) and scanned the PC, no viruses or malware. I've reset the router. The desktop still only downloads at 5Mb/s, whilst my tablet downloads at 50Mb/s (this is according to various "how fast is my broadband?" site.



3. I have various backups, from a month back, total images of my C: drive. So I thought I'd reinstall one of those, as that would surely not include whatever corrupted file or wrong setting that is causing the problem now. So I first made a backup of the current state, in case I needed to go back, then put the last backup on my PC. But for some reason, that backup (and the two earlier ones) will not see any wi-fi connections, even though I've reinstalled the wi-fi driver, but there's no wi-fi icon in the task bar.


I'll include all available data that I think might be important, in the next post (it's long!)
 

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[Continued from the above post]



In today's backup (which was made of the original state, with the 5Mb/s download speed) which I've put back on to check that the wi-fi works (it does) the settings for the connection are:


IPv4 Connectivity: Internet

IPv6 Connectivity: No Internet Access

Media State: Enabled

SSID: [it does show this right, but I won't post it here]

Duration: [shows the right duration]

Speed: 26.0 Mbps [Note that this is wrong by about 21 Mb/s]

Signal Quality: [Five green bars in the shape of the wi-fi icon]






When I click Details, I get:








Connection-specific DNS Suffix:

Description: 802.11n Wireless LAN Card

Physical Address: ‎C8-3A-35-CA-3B-97

DHCP Enabled: Yes

IPv4 Address: 192.168.0.3

IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

Lease Obtained: 04 November 2015 20:24:37

Lease Expires: 06 November 2015 11:25:46

IPv4 Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

IPv4 DHCP Server: 192.168.0.1

IPv4 DNS Servers: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4

IPv4 WINS Server:

NetBIOS over Tcpip Enabled: Yes

Link-local IPv6 Address: fe80::f099:2ee6:2777:5a72%17

IPv6 Default Gateway:

IPv6 DNS Server:








When I click on Wireless Properties, I get a box with two tabs. The Connection tab

says:




Name: [Shows the right name]

SSID: [Shows the right name]

Network Type: Access Point

Network Availability: All Users


Connect automatically when this network is in range [Ticked]

Connect to a more preferable network if available [Not ticked]

Connect even if the network is not broadcasting it's name [Not ticked]







and the Security Tab says:



Security type: WPA2-Personal

Encryptions type: AES

Network security key: [Shows it OK]




and if I click Advanced Settings, then I get a box with one option:


802.11 settings

Enable Federal Information Processing Standards (FIPS) compliance for this network




If I click on Properties (from the General box) then I get:






Connect Using:

802.11n Wireless LAN Card


This connections uses the following items



Client For Microsoft Networks [Ticked]

QoS Packet Scheduler [Ticked]

File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks [Ticked]

Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6) [Ticked]

Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) [Ticked]













And the settings for TCP/IPv4 are:



Obtain an IP address automatically [Ticked (well, it's a black spot in the option

hole]

Use the following IP Address [Not ticked, and no numbers in the IP Address/Subnet

Mask/Default Gateway options]



Obtain DNS server address automatically [Not ticked]

Use the following DNS server addresses [Ticked]

Preferred DNS server: 8.8.8.8

Alternate DNS server: 8.8.4.4



Validate settings upon exit [Not Ticked]






And the settings for TCP/IPv6 are:

Obtain an IPv6 address automatically [Ticked]

Use the following IPv6 address [Not Ticked, and the IPv6 Address, Subnet prefix length, and Default Gateway are all blank]


Obtain DNS server address automatically [Ticked]

Use the following DNS server addresses [Not Ticked, and Preferred DNS serve, and Alternate DNS server are both blank]

Validate Settings upon exit [Not Ticked]
 

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i would create a new post for the backup question and just focus on the networking issue on this forum

I suspect it maybe the firewall issue - see below
However, a few things to try
I would do a TCP/IP reset - see how below

Try Safemode with networking -
safemode with networking (sometimes wireless does not work with safemode )

Windows, XP, Vista and W7 as the PC starts keep tapping F8 - a menu appears - choose
safemode with networking - see if that works

For Windows 8 or 8.1
5 Ways To Boot Into Safe Mode In Windows 8.1
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/windows-startup-settings-including-safe-mode
How To Start Windows 8 or 8.1 in Safe Mode [10 Minutes]

For Windows 10
4 Ways To Boot Into Safe Mode In Windows 10
Safe Mode - Start Windows 10 in - Windows 10 Forums

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Uninstall Zone Alarm - I know it can cause various issues

Zonealarm Removal Tool
The latest versions have the uninstalled included in the installation
run the ZA uninstaller from Start > Programs > ZoneAlarm

removal
Free Antivirus + Firewall Uninstall help.
You need to use Internet Explorer as other browsers corrupt the download
or from
ZoneAlarm Uninstall Tool Download
works with Chrome browser

Vista
Self-Service Support

Frequently Asked Question
How do I remove ZoneAlarm from my computer (Version 9.x & below)
Self-Service Support

How do I remove ZoneAlarm from my computer (Version 10.x & above)
Self-Service Support


Did Avast uninstall OK ?
Uninstall Avast Utility
Sometimes it´s not possible to uninstall avast! the standard way - using the ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS in control panel. In this case, you can use the uninstallation utility avastclear.

http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility
http://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility

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TCP/IP stack repair options for use with Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10

For Windows Vista through to Windows 10
Start> Programs> Accessories> and right click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator" to open a command prompt box
(A new dialogue box - black with white font, will appear on the screen )​

For Windows 8 & 10
To open a Cmd Prompt or an Administrator Cmd prompt from the Desktop. Use Windows + X Keys together and choose Command Prompt (Admin) from the list.
Or Right click on the windows icon - bottom left hand side - A menuu appears - choose Command Prompt (Admin)

In the command prompt window that opens, type the following commands:

Note: Type only the text in bold and red for the following commands.

  • Reset WINSOCK entries to installation defaults: netsh winsock reset catalog and press enter
  • Reset IPv4 TCP/IP stack to installation defaults. netsh int ipv4 reset reset.log and press enter
  • Reset IPv6 TCP/IP stack to installation defaults. netsh int ipv6 reset reset.log and press enter
ReStart (reboot) the machine.

If you receive the message
The requested operation requires elevation.
Then please open the command prompt as administrator - as requested above
Start> Programs> Accessories> and right click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator" to open a command prompt box
(A new dialogue box - black with white font, will appear on screen )​
Please note and post back - if you receive the following message :-
Access is Denied
This error will occur with windows 8 and windows 10 , so ignore.

please post back the results in a reply here - its important we know that these commands have worked correctly and not produced any errors
right click in the command prompt box
select all
enter
control key + C key - to copy
then reply here and
control key + V to paste

Details also here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299357
also the link has a Microsoft Fix it , which will do the above for you

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Its useful to know when you have posted in other forums - a link helps
Otherwise volunteers on the site , working for free, can sepnd a lot of time looking into / researching a problem only to find it has already be answered or solved in a different website
https://forums.techguy.org/threads/help-two-wi-fi-related-problems.1159589/
Oh, sorry, I didn't think of that. If I'd gotten a working solution on any forum, then I'd post it up in the other threads (including here of course), I hate it when someone posts a problem, then later on posts something like "Never mind, I solved it", without explaining the solution, so if you find their post hoping for help, then you're just wasting your time...

But it didn't occur to me that help given in one forum could stop another persom from wasting their time giving the same advice (or it might even help nudge that person into the right solution), so here are the posts I know I made (I made a list in a txt file on the desktop, then (in a fit of idiocy mixed with frustration) I over-wrote the C: drive with a backup and so deleted the list of where I'd posted. But looking through my book marks of help forums, and checking for recent posts, I posted on

VOGONS • View topic - List the fancy schmancy words you are surprised that you use

http://www.techsupportforum.com/for...-thats-more-difficult-to-explain-1061786.html (this thread, of course)

https://forums.techguy.org/threads/help-two-wi-fi-related-problems.1159589/

Help! One Wireless Problem And One Problem That's More Difficu - Windows 7 - All Editions - The Elder Geek on Windows

Help! One wireless problem and one problem that's more difficult to explain

http://forums.pcpitstop.com/index.p...-one-problem-thats-more-difficult-to-explain/

Help! One wireless problem and one problem that's more difficult to explain - MajorGeeks Support Forums

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/for...-one-problem-thats-more-difficult-to-explain/


I posted it so often because I knew (from years of experience of irritating obscure PC problems) that this would be difficult to solve, and so the larger the potential audience the better. Sometimes PCs throw up some weird problems that are difficult to diagnose, and those are the worst to solve.

Anyway, I've tried everything mentioned in all of the above threads (as of, say, 10:30 pm GMT, Saturday, so any later advice I've not tried yet), and no change, still getting around 5Mb/s at the moment.
 

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i would create a new post for the backup question and just focus on the networking issue on this forum

I suspect it maybe the firewall issue - see below
However, a few things to try
I would do a TCP/IP reset - see how below

Try Safemode with networking -
safemode with networking (sometimes wireless does not work with safemode )
I tried, thanks, but still getting 5Mb/s in Safe Mode + Networking.







Uninstall Zone Alarm - I know it can cause various issues
I have, including using the uninstall tool, and also uninstalled (with a tool) Avast! Antivirus, but with both gone, I'm still getting 5Mb/s.







------------------------------------------------------------------------

TCP/IP stack repair options for use with Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10

For Windows Vista through to Windows 10
Start> Programs> Accessories> and right click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator" to open a command prompt box
(A new dialogue box - black with white font, will appear on the screen )​

For Windows 8 & 10
To open a Cmd Prompt or an Administrator Cmd prompt from the Desktop. Use Windows + X Keys together and choose Command Prompt (Admin) from the list.
Or Right click on the windows icon - bottom left hand side - A menuu appears - choose Command Prompt (Admin)

In the command prompt window that opens, type the following commands:

Note: Type only the text in bold and red for the following commands.

  • Reset WINSOCK entries to installation defaults: netsh winsock reset catalog and press enter
  • Reset IPv4 TCP/IP stack to installation defaults. netsh int ipv4 reset reset.log and press enter
  • Reset IPv6 TCP/IP stack to installation defaults. netsh int ipv6 reset reset.log and press enter
ReStart (reboot) the machine.

If you receive the message
The requested operation requires elevation.
Then please open the command prompt as administrator - as requested above
Start> Programs> Accessories> and right click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator" to open a command prompt box
(A new dialogue box - black with white font, will appear on screen )​
Please note and post back - if you receive the following message :-
Access is Denied
This error will occur with windows 8 and windows 10 , so ignore.

please post back the results in a reply here - its important we know that these commands have worked correctly and not produced any errors
right click in the command prompt box
select all
enter
control key + C key - to copy
then reply here and
control key + V to paste

Details also here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299357
also the link has a Microsoft Fix it , which will do the above for you

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It didn't solve the problem, sadly. The text is:


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Ace Rimmer>netsh winsock reset catalog

Sucessfully reset the Winsock Catalog.
You must restart the computer in order to complete the reset.


C:\Users\Ace Rimmer>netsh int ipv4 reset reset.log
Reseting Global, OK!
Reseting Interface, OK!
Reseting Unicast Address, OK!
Restart the computer to complete this action.


C:\Users\Ace Rimmer>netsh int ipv6 reset reset.log
Reseting Interface, OK!
Restart the computer to complete this action.


C:\Users\Ace Rimmer>
 

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Lets take a peek at your network environment:

First:

Power Cycle everything . . Turn off the Modem, router and all pc's . . turn on the Modem and wait a few minutes for the lights to stabilize . . then turn on the router, then one pc at a time. See if you connect to the internet.

Then:

Remove all the stored wireless network profiles and search for the network again.

How to Remove Stored Wireless Network Profiles for XP, Vista, and Windows 7

Then: check your browser's settings, remove any proxy settings if found, here's how


Then:

with the pc connected to the router, Click on Start . . Run . . type CMD

At the > prompt type or copy and paste the following command:

ipconfig/all > 0 & notepad 0

and press enter.

Come back here and Paste the results in a message.

If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB drive, or a CD-R disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.

then please Download and run this Xirrus WiFi Inspector, click the Networks link on the upper left and paste a screen shot of that screen here. Note that this application requires NET Framework to run. If you get an error about a missing function, download and install NET Framework.


To post a screen shot of the active window, hold the Alt key and press the PrtScn key. Open the Windows PAINT application and Paste the screen shot. You can then use PAINT to trim to suit, and save it as a JPG format file. To upload it to the forum, open the full reply window and use the Manage Attachments button to upload it here. For Vista and Windows 7, 8 you can use the Windows Snipping Tool
 

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Lets take a peek at your network environment:

First:

Power Cycle everything . . Turn off the Modem, router and all pc's . . turn on the Modem and wait a few minutes for the lights to stabilize . . then turn on the router, then one pc at a time. See if you connect to the internet.
Sorry, what do you mean by 'modem'? I just have a router, I thought modems were only for dial up?




Then:

Remove all the stored wireless network profiles and search for the network again.
Again, sorry, but what are stored wireless network profiles, and how do I remove them, please?




That link is dead, it just gives "The topic or post you requested does not exist".

Anyway, I'll do all that you suggest tomorrow (today has been hectic!), and post the results. Thanks for your help so far, mate.
 

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First of all, sorry for not updating sooner, but I've not done anything on the PC (life at the moment is really hectic and I've not been in the mood for PC problems.). I've not tried to fix the PC (not format and reinstall, not take the PC downstairs and connect it via the router, etc) but the last time I touched the PC I started to download a file (a 41GB complete run of a British drama program) to see how fast the downloads were, and because I wanted the TV program (it would also mean having to find out where all the torrent data was stored, to save and restore after any re-format or Acronis image backup restoration, but that was a problem for tomorrow...). I can't remember what the download speed was, but it must have been slow or I'd have taken note and commented on it.

Anyway, today I got home early, so I thought I'd take my desktop downstairs and connect it to the router to see if the speed would increase. But I'd left my PC on over the past few nights, to download the torrent, and to my amazement, the entire torrent has downloaded! 41GB (and I checked some files at random, they do play, the PC hasn't just created empty or corrupt files). I wouldn't have thought this was possible given how slow the download speed had been.

I used speedtest.net and it showed the speed as:

17.47Mbps (small 'b' in 'Mb')

even though I'd done nothing (literally nothing, not even reset the PC) since the I'd given up (for the time being) trying to fix the problem and instead left the 41GB torrent to load.


So to test things, I queued up a lot of torrents to download (films, regardless of age or type, just ones with a good amount of seeders, to give large files that had lots of seeding) and I downloaded a program to show what speeds the downloads are at (Networx, it's free and seems to do what's required, though for all I know a different program might be much better), and I ran it over four hours or so, and I copied and pasted the results from the real-time graph into this image twenty-five times:



























and here's the Speed Meter window:











I don't understand this. First of all, how come the speed varies so hugely? And there's surely no way my maximum download speed has been 247MB/s (as the Speed Meter says), is that speed even possible if you have a fast enough router (mine is the router that Virgin installed, so I assume it has a maximum speed of 50+)? And all the peaks (which seem too high and too brief to be anything but glitches) in the Network graph windows, and the drops to almost 0, are they normal, do they occur in all broadband connects and just represent a very brief period where the PC waits for the signal to catch up? A couple of times, the graphs list the speed as between 20 and 40MB/s (and the very brief spike seems around the 30 area) which is a big jump from the other speeds.

Is there a file I can download from somewhere that has a guaranteed download speed of at least 50Mb/s, so I can test the download speed using Network, please? And any ideas or theories ot explain this, please?
 

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I'm sorry that I've not replied here sooner, please don't think I've fixed the problem and neglected to post the solution or thank anyone who helped. I've not done anything re: the problem due to real life problems and hardly being at home over the past couple of weeks. I'll post again when things calm down, and if anyone is kind enough to still care then hopefully you can help me address this problem. I wish PC problems or any possession's problems were the only trouble life ever threw at us.
 
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