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I just put together a new gaming system last week. System seems stable so far but I am having one really annoying problem that is affecting my games. This is what happens and it occurs in both World of Warcraft and Battlefield 2. I will be playing the game like normal and at random the system will lock up with the mouse and game frozen for 10 - 20 seconds while it is stuck the sound will just stutter / repeat itself in a loop sounding very annoying. After the 10-20 seconds the game continues from where it left off. It is really annoying since I end up dying during this freeze :( I know that the in game settings for both isn't too high since I tried changing settings to quite a few variations and the problem still occurs while gettin 100 fps in them. Both games have the latest patches.

Specs

MSI K8n NEO4 Mobo
1 Gig Corsair Ram
300 Gig SATA MAxtor HD
256mb XFX GF 7800GT
A64 3500+
500 Watt Ultra X-connect PSU

So here is what I've tried so far.


1) Well first thing I did was reinstall windows...no difference.

2) I thought it may have been the video card drivers so I used driver cleaner and removed the latest nvidia.com drivers I had installed, tried the drivers that came with the card on cd, no difference. I then tried some optimized beta drivers from tweaksrus.com and same problem so I don't think the drivers are the problem.

3) Neither processor nor video card is overclocked.

4) I tried different benchmarks and stress programs such as Performancetest,Burnintest and Everest. The infomation I got seems right and the stress/benchmarks showed no errors in their tests. I also ran memtest and no errors...
Aren't these voltages good?

Temperatures:
Motherboard 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU 46 °C (115 °F)
Aux 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU 55 °C (131 °F)
Maxtor 6L300S0 39 °C (102 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2109 RPM
North Bridge 6027 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.48 V
+3.3 V 3.36 V
+5 V 5.11 V
+12 V 12.22 V
+5 V Standby 5.11 V
VBAT Battery 3.09 V

5) I tried disabling write combining under troubleshooting in the display control panel...no luck.

6) Ok so I have corsair memory with a latency of 2.5-3-3-6 went into the bios and changed it to correspond with these specs... cas, ras, row and min ras# in that order right?

7)Ok so I then tried disabling the sound in the bios but I still had the problem. I then tried removing the audio and ethernet drivers and installed a linksys pci ethernet card and a soundblaster live sound card. Installed their drivers but no change with the problem.

8) Took out one stick of ram thinking maybe it was that but I had the same problem. Made sure they were seated properly in the right slots.

So I am asking for any suggestions on other things I can try. I don't think any part is defective since I have not gotten any problems in regular windows use such as browsing the web or burning dvd's. Also the stress tests and benchmarks don't fail. I was wondering are 59 C ok temperatures for my GPU and CPU while games are running? I have also tried leaving my case open I still get the problem.

I was also wondering are there any other settings I can check in the BIOs that may help with this?

Finally the games give this problem even with nothing running in the background as I have even tried disabling most services in windows to see if this was what was causing it. Firewall and Antivirus disabled.

Sorry for the long post guys but I have been trying to figure this one out and nothing seems to be working :(
 

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Ok, first things first:

Let's test for spyware/malware/adware.
Get yourself a copy of Spyware S&D, SpywareBlaster, and AdAware SE. Spyware Blaster will block a lot more stuff than Spybot S&D will, but Spybot will scan for anything that's already infected your system while Spywareblaster doesn't scan, it just blocks. AdAware uses a different scaning engine than Spybot does, so it's good to use both as the one might miss what the other catches.

Then, uninstall Norton if you have it, and get AVG, Avast!4Home, or some other good free AV package. (I recomend Avast!4Home).

Finaly, if you don't have a hardware firewall... get one! Hardware firewalls are much more robust than software firewalls, but they're not free. Most routers these days come with some sort of firewall built in. I recomend Linksys, Dlink, SMC, Phoebe, or 3Com/USR brand routers; However, there's plenty of good brands out there so if you can't find these brands, chances are that the router is perfectly fine.
A software firewall package can add security to your system, but there's a caveat: The best firewalls requre the user to know something about how the internet works, while the least effective firewalls are simple"Ask&answer" apps. If you are new to the world of firewalls, then I recomend ZoneAlarm. If you have some training as a network admin, I recomend either Black ICE Defender or Sygate Personal Firewall. (I use SPF Pro myself).
 

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Sarge said:
Ok, first things first:

Let's test for spyware/malware/adware.
Get yourself a copy of Spyware S&D, SpywareBlaster, and AdAware SE. Spyware Blaster will block a lot more stuff than Spybot S&D will, but Spybot will scan for anything that's already infected your system while Spywareblaster doesn't scan, it just blocks. AdAware uses a different scaning engine than Spybot does, so it's good to use both as the one might miss what the other catches.

Then, uninstall Norton if you have it, and get AVG, Avast!4Home, or some other good free AV package. (I recomend Avast!4Home).

Finaly, if you don't have a hardware firewall... get one! Hardware firewalls are much more robust than software firewalls, but they're not free. Most routers these days come with some sort of firewall built in. I recomend Linksys, Dlink, SMC, Phoebe, or 3Com/USR brand routers; However, there's plenty of good brands out there so if you can't find these brands, chances are that the router is perfectly fine.
A software firewall package can add security to your system, but there's a caveat: The best firewalls requre the user to know something about how the internet works, while the least effective firewalls are simple"Ask&answer" apps. If you are new to the world of firewalls, then I recomend ZoneAlarm. If you have some training as a network admin, I recomend either Black ICE Defender or Sygate Personal Firewall. (I use SPF Pro myself).

:S Well I just installed Windows this week, yeah I tried programs like lavasoft adaware and S&D, nothing has been found.

I already run Aast antivirus but also tried disabling it during gameplay...same problem.

I don't have a software firewall just my netgear router.

I wonder what could be wrong , maybe a bios setting?
 

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Ok, get yourself a copy of Memtest 86+
Install it to a floppy, boot to that floppy, and let it check your ram.
If it finds anything, you know one of the sticks is bad.
:sayyes:
 

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Ran memtest overnight, had no errors.

What is pcpitstop?

While playing World of Warcraft i am getting these temperatures, am I overheating you think?


Temperatures:
Motherboard 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU 52 °C (124 °F)
Aux 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU 54 °C (129 °F)
Maxtor 6L300S0 36 °C (97 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 3125 RPM
North Bridge 5819 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.44 V
+3.3 V 3.38 V
+5 V 5.11 V
+12 V 12.28 V
+5 V Standby 5.14 V
VBAT Battery 3.07 V
 

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If those temps are under burn-in (full load) then it doesn't look like you're overheating. However, if that's the IDLE temps, then you've got a serious problem. Idle temp should be down around 30 degrees centigrade max.

Have you checked your electrical outlets and the PSU with a voltmeter? There may be spike/surges on your outlet, or the PSU itself may be faulty, casuing intermitant overstrain on the PSU, which in turn pushes the ATX 12V pins breifly past their tolerances, casuing strange behavior in your games.
 

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PSU voltages look fine.

Though I run Prime 95 and my CPU temperature stays at 55C, is this bad for an Athlon 64 3500?
 
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