hey shy...
If your having problems...start your own thread....it will get more looks then and old thread that people have answered....
can you use one at a time...since you say both ...probley not ...first question...if your not techie enough how much is troubleshooting worth to you (time and money)..if you want to learn... great start a new thread and well go over the steps in diagnosing and troubleshooting...you need the time, tools, and brains (in my case lack of helps) to open the case and explore...
honestly if this is over your heard...for some it can be...they are called end users (sorry geek joke- just got of the phone with one) it is alot scarier sounding then it actually is but some people you never know...Dude get a Dell...Gartner (a group that studies these things) say an avarage computer life expectancy is three years...you might be fixing a edsel and for the $$ or close to it of a new system...
or best yet...get the new system ...enjoy it and open and poke around on the broken one...either way good luck:bandit: