[AwakenOne]

The title pretty much sums it up. I searched for help. Saw that this was an issue in the past. But no real help with this issue.
Basically, when in fullscreen, the min/restore/exit are not present so I have to use F11 or right click with mouse and select "exit fullscreen." Since I am personally in and out of Fullscreen mode all day, this is a pain in the back.

Thanks ahead for any fixes/help!

Cheers to my countrymen in the U.S.A. from Uruguay South America!

 

[AwakenOne]

It's too much trouble to tap [F11]?

Before this obnoxious "update", I could move my mouse to the top right during fullscreen, making the "exit" button visible to close the window and continue using the mouse for the next bit of business, smooth and seamlessly. Now, I have to either right click then select "exit fullscreen" then left click the "exit" button (two steps, not seamless) or Hit F11 on the keyboard then left click exit (also two step, not seamless). So if we are going by simple logic here, that one step for the mundane is better (and faster) than two steps...then "It's too much trouble to tap [F11]?" becomes a matter of often I need to do the extra moves each day. For me that's alot. This is clearly a bad modification and I suppose the poll on this post might flesh that out, if I'm right.
Anyway, if you have something useful to add, like a fix, I would appreciate that.

 

[AwakenOne]

As I see it, the 'fix' is to simply use it as designed. Or, try and convince the developers to change it for you?

This is just voluntary for you then, I see. This is one of those forums where you kinda have to duck and weave all the "characters/experts" until someone smart comes along. No problem, I've seen this before. So )))) Thaaaaanks! I'll just hang out for awhile and see if I get a some good info on this or not.

I'm no hacker, but I know one thing. With pc's there is ALWAYS a way, always a fix.

 

[AwakenOne]

You might have changed to tablet mode if it's a laptop. Works as normal for me so I'm removing poll. Another option is to restart Windows in safe mode and thereby see if an app is causing the problem.

Okay, thanks. I am on an MSI laptop. I checked HID in device manager for touch screens and there is nothing there. Is there another way to toggle tablet mode?

 

[AwakenOne]

There is a difference between Maximized and Full Screen. Full screen hasn't changed since the early days, and you cannot close or minimize the windows, unless you press F11 or ESC which switches it to Maximized and you then can control the windows. Are you confusing Maximized with Full Screen?

Yes, of course. In my explanation above I hope I was clear about the problem. My Full Screen has changed and that is what I am saying. If I hit F11, when I cursor to the top of the page making my tool bar drop down, there is no longer the interface on the upper right corner that I too remember being there since the beginning of time For me, they are no longer there, since I updated Firefox to 102.0.1.
Thank you for your input. If this is a bug and other folks start to ask about it, maybe someone will come up with a script?

 

[AwakenOne]

Turn On or Off Tablet Mode in Windows 10

How to Turn On or Off Tablet Mode in Windows 10

www.tenforums.com

Try turning tablet mode off if it's on as the tutorial shows.

EDIT: On four computers I think I found the problem. Only the largest screen 27" and or the resolution seems to be the cause. I still wouldn't change from the recommended resolution since for this glitch it's not worth it. To report to Firefox/Mozilla; Log in to Bugzilla

I should have said so, but I am running 8.1. I've looked into the Action Center and there is nothing about Tablet and in device manager in HID there is no Touch Screen option to disable. Thanks for your ideas. I also did a Firefox refresh no help.

 

[AwakenOne]

Might be time for an upgrade? Windows 8 is 9 years, 11 months, 1 week, 5 days old.

Yeah, I find 10 and up to be way too intrusive with too many backdoor security issues. I often wish I had learned to use MAC just because Billy Gates is such an untrustworthy POS (in my opinion). When he went from software developer to vaxxx doctor I started looking into his Eugenics involved POS family. Bad taste just from researching "him."
So, that was probably more info than you wanted but unlike most of my American bros and sis's, I am very up to date on NSA/FBI/CIA spying programs that absolutely affect all Windows users. I still care about my privacy (52yo) while the millennials and gen-Z do not seem to know what the word "privacy" means nor how very important it is was.
Thanks for the idea though.

I think at this point I will research other browsers and switch, at least until I can get this bug fixed. It's too bad the other fella took down my poll. Obviously, just because Corday didn't have the problem with the update doesn't mean it is not a bug affecting other people. He should learn a bit about PR and Website user interactivity. The polling was a SUPER idea but if you are gonna take them down for illogical, nonsensical "reasons" you are shooting yourselves in the foot. Why not leave the poll alone and SEE if others are having the same bug?

This is the very best Tech Forum on the Internet, hands down BUT you folks could definitely work on user interface experience. For instance...Help guide your volunteers to not be smart alecks e.g. "Can't you just use F11?" And don't be so quick to take down polls that you offer to people to use. I, for instance, was really interested to see if others were having the same problem on the poll. And again, Corday taking it down was pure power/ego B.S. and not logical.

Thanks for your ideas. I tried every one of them to find Tablet on my 8.1 but it is simply not there. Since this happened immediately after my the update I didn't want (had to refresh 8.1 for other reasons got stuck with new firefox update) I have to assume it was the new update that caused the bug.

Overall you guys are doing a great job and I really appreciate that this forum is here...I hope you continue to grow and make improvements as you go forward.

Thank You All,
John G. Mitchell
Awakenvideo.org

 

[AwakenOne]

Awaken: Did you read or act on my edit of Post #10?

Yes, I answered mentioning that I have 8.1. Someone gave a link to help with 8.1, I had already been digging. I do not have the Tablet feature. As far as screen res. goes, I'm on a 15" MSI and the res. is the same it's always been. I will report the bug. Thank you for the reporting link.

 

[AwakenOne]

If you think Windows 10 has too many security issues, you should look at the list for Windows 8.1, and it'll soon be totally unsupported!

Support for Windows 8 ended on January 12, 2016, and support for Windows 8.1 will end on January 10, 2023. Microsoft 365 Apps is no longer supported on Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 after they have reached their end of support dates.

I do not purport to be any kind of computer guru. However, I am old enough to have started on an IBM running MS-DOS. I can state matter-of-factually I have never used Microsoft for their "support" ever. I have always had knowledgeable friends and more recently tech forums for true support. As far as patches and updates...'I be get'n me patches wit me mateys on the high seas...ARGH!!! I found all the places for updates and patches out of necessity, long ago, because I ran XP into the grave and finally gave in to Vista which I immediately hated. Honestly I thought 8 was an improvement over Vista minus the security issues (which are far easier to lock down than in 10/11). So I am sticking with 8.1 until they pull it from my cold dead hands lol! Truthfully, software, such as all MS OS's, so easily hackable which must be updated and patched out of the box and (until only recently) need a third party anti virus to keep it functioning, are both sinister and as dumb an idea as it reads IF you are to believe the narrative. I think there was a bit of Pavlovian training going on there with the very idea of constant updates. I am pretty darn sure that every time Skype/Microsoft "updates" there are package files being uploaded OFF of my computer. I don't think it is a stretch to see all of these Apps as a network of spyware by their very nature. Anyway...that's my book on why MS, to me, is just a bought and paid for arm of the military industrial complex.
I could go on for hours but I digress I am sure we can trust them to only make product suggestions to us based on their listening in and watching internet histories...right?

 

[AwakenOne]

IMO Windows 7 was the big improvement to Vista. 8 & 8.1 were steps sideways. 10 was another big step forward. Jury still out on 11.

Wow! I totally forgot about 7. Wasn't even a blip on the radar. Yeah you are right about 7 being much better than Vista. Foggy haha but I remember. If I could have any of them running smooth still, I'd choose XP. I think though, if I weren't so lazy to learn it, I might like Linux and never look back?

 

[AwakenOne]

Hey youngster. BC here ... Before Computers

By 2026, the Gates Foundation aims to spend $9 billion a year

Bill Gates is more committed than ever to the Gates Foundation.

www.gatesnotes.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_gates

 

[AwakenOne]

As far as I could tell, Windows 8/8.1 was just a silly experiment that went wrong, a bit like Vista and ME.

XP was great, in its day, I ran that until it was just silly not to upgrade to 7 and was very impressed. after that, as always, waited until I was forced to upgrade to 10 and never looked back, it was like 7 but with all the flaws ironed out, still works brilliantly.

Windows 11, imho was launched for the idiot part of society, the ones that have to get the latest thing simply because it is the latest thing, regardless of whether it has been tried and tested or not.

Having said that, present company excepted, quite a few of my colleages here at TSF are running 11 and, from what I can gather, they've hardly noticed a difference.

On a side note, here in the forums, I think you could get your point across quite adequately without being disrespectful to the staff. As you rightly mentioned earlier, we are all volunteers and we are all human. Humans are well known for having good days and bad days, perhaps you should consider that before you press the 'Post' button.

You know what? Thank you all very much for your ideas. This thread did not solve the problem but I learned a few things on the way. I hope that both the praise that I wrote here and the constructive criticism will be seen as it was meant...part of a long tradition called communication. Today, mistakenly many folks, especially youngins are prone to being overly sensitive and they confuse constructive criticism for "disrespect." I assure you I mean no disrespect to any normal man or woman or even a fragile snowflake.
Thanks once again to everyone on this thread for your time and help.
Till next time!
Be well~Ciao!

 

[AwakenOne]

The video on Wikipedia was certainly amusing. I certainly look at Wikipedia and I even toss them a donation about once a year for $10. However, consider that anyone, including a clueless idiot, can sign up to modify any topic on Wikipedia, and you have to take a close look at the "information" you're getting there. Actually, taking a close look at the information applies to just about anyplace on the Internet! Just because you found it on the Internet, that doesn't make it true.

Gee, you had to blow the apology by tossing in a couple if insults on your way out, you really should have stopped at: I assure you I mean no disrespect.

Apology? Man, you guys are eating too much soy. What gives? READ. There was no apology. I have nothing to apologize for. I could not have given you guys more praise, which I can see most people do not. I made a couple of observations about the way "I" was treated with the very first reply to begin with and then having the poll I made take down completely illogically. There is something very disturbing about how overly sensitive and butt-hurt people, even "men", have become. Anyone should be able to handle the truth but far too many left leaning people these days. As I said, I MEANT no disrespect. For God's sake grow a pair would ya? Is it an insult to point out someone is being overly sensitive? I can't even believe the Nancy behavior on this thread. If it looks, acts and smell like a snowflake, maybe it's a snowflake? I imagine you ladies have been taught to ban anyone with a contrary opinion to your own. So I truly hope you don't act this way towards every guy that comes here who is not a soy boy or a boot licker.
Here is a parting gift before my ultimate doom again....you guys have the best forum...you should try to act like it..

 

[AwakenOne]

For the record:
Firefox 102.0.1, running on Linux Mint 19.3, still allows a mouse-over to exit full screen.
Win 10 1903, 102.0.1 also allows mouse-over. This laptop is staying on 1903 until I have to upgrade because I use it for specific work and don't want anything broken.

Have you run sfc /scannow ? Do it a couple of times whilst in safe mode. Also, check FF in it's own safe mode.

thank you...will do after saturday....on vacation at the moment....I appreciate your input.

 

[AwakenOne]

There was a time when Firefox was great!

which browser do you recommend?

 

[AwakenOne]

Uninstall the video driver, restart Windows, and let it reinstall the driver. You could also start firefox in troubleshoot mode, then restart normally.

thank you! I will try this on Sunday once I'm back home and let you know how it goes.

 

[AwakenOne]

Yep, I'm not having any problem with FF in full screen mode, move to the top and the "missing" buttons show up like magic. Perhaps it's a loose nut on the keyboard?

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Yep, I'm not having any problem with FF in full screen mode, move to the top and the "missing" buttons show up like magic. Perhaps it's a loose nut on the keyboard?

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Thank you for yet another insult Johnwill,.. Global moderator huh? Super professional. You have a great day now

 

[AwakenOne]

I have not ever seen a problem with Fullscreen mode.. and also can, with the cursor/mouse, shut down with top right buttons.. but I am of the opinion too many seem to totally rely on the mouse for control... My wife is legally blind.. and we have a 32inch screen for her with very large font set up.. She cannot see the "buttons" at top right, and even my Custom bright orange mouse cursor(Very large) is difficult for her.. so she is now filally learning the keypresses needed for getting out of things, closing windows, etc... and various other useful things... So to be as lazy as to expect the mouse to do everything is just that... Earlier it was stated... F11... well, how do you get into Fullscreen mode? I have never bothered to look for a Mouse-led command... just F11.. both in and out.. using a mouse requires a lot more effort.....unless you don't have working arms!!

I am using 102.0.1 also, on 11, not 10, and with no real issues so far.

Howdy everyone, just back from vacation. I made this screen shot to dazzle everyone who thinks this is somehow imaginary or impossible. I assure you it is quite a real nuisance. Tomorrow I will try some of the tips left here. My thanks to you all.
Screen Video Here

 

[AwakenOne]

If the video is supposed to show the original problem then I'm 90% sure it's an add-on that's causing it.

Okay, I'm running ghostery, ad blocker ultimate and tampermonkey with a youtube sign in script running. So far I have switched off all three and doesn't seem to make any difference. I was running all three of these for a long while before this problem cropped up.
Thanks.