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i'm running win 98SE and went to install and old game that requires the installation be done in DOS.
so i restart in DOS Mode then try to change from C: to my Rom drive whichh is E: because i'm using two HDD's but it doen't see it.
the "My Computer" window see's it and the windows explorer see's it but when i'm in DOS it's not thier.

any ideas?

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When you boot up into DOS, and you're at C:/, do a "cd \" then "dir" and tell us what shows up.
 

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can't get to C:\ just C:\WINDOWS also when i try C:\WINDOWS \ or / i get Invalid Switch - /DIR on one and Invalid directory on the other.
 

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Nonono
Boot up into DOS and type this exactly, without the quotes "cd \"
You then should be in C:/
Then type this exactly without quotes "dir E:"
If it says that it can't find the directory, then that could mean DOS isn't booting with your cd drivers.
Post back with the results, and include your CD drive specs (brand and model)
 

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Go here: http://freepctech.com/pc/002/files010.shtml
And download the Windows 98/98SE boot disk. Put a blank floppy in your floppy drive, copy the downloaded file to it and then run the downloaded file. It will format your disk and make it bootable for you.
Restart your computer and boot from the floppy, and it has generic drivers on it. See if you can "cd E:" now.
 

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ok i get to it but i type dir and get:

Volume in drive E is MS-RAMDRIVE
Directory of E:\

ATTRIB EXE 15,252 05-06-98 8:01p

CHKDSK EXE 28,096 05-06-98 8:01p

COMMAND COM 93,890 04-23-99 10:22p

DEBUG EXE 20,554 05-06-98 8:01p

EDIT COM 69,902 05-06-98 8:01p

EXT EXE 13,299 05-06-98 8:01p

EXTRACT EXE 93,242 04-23-99 10:22p

FORMAT COM 49,575 05-06-98 8:01p

HELP BAT 36 05-06-98 8:01p

MSCDEX EXE 25,473 05-06-98 8:01p

README TXT 14,764 04-23-99 10:22p

RESTART COM 20 05-06-98 8:01p

SCANDISK EXE 143,818 05-06-98 8:01p

SCANDISK INI 7,329 05-06-98 8:01p

SYS COM 18,967 05-06-98 8:01p


15 files(s) 594,217 bytes

0 dir(s) 1,487,872 bytes free
 

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Niftacular. Are those the files you see when you look at your CD drive in Windows Explorer?
 

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Hmm... it must be reading the floppy drive or one of your partitions as E:/
... Ok, boot again with the floppy, and do a dir on all of the drives, "dir A:" "dir B:" "dir C:" etc, until you run out of drives. If you see anything with game files, we're lucky
 

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Alright. Let's try this through windows command prompt. I'm a little rusty on Win98, but I think Start>Run "cmd.exe" or "command.exe" will open an MS-DOS prompt.
Once you get the prompt, "cd \" and then type "dir E:" and this time you should almost definitely see the same files that you do in windows explorer.
If we find the files, then run the setup file or whatever it is. "E:/(filename).exe"
See what happens
 

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Ok, well the game must be relatively old, so let's cheat. Copy all the game files from the CD into a folder in your C: drive. Then, reboot into dos, and install the game from there.
 

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I was afraid of that. There are really only two things that can be done about this. We can emulate a CD-rom drive and make the computer think it has one, or we can get DOS to freaking recognize the drive you have. Since I don't know of any CD emulation software that will work under DOS, this means we have to get the computer to figure out that you have a CD drive.
It might be that DOS isn't registering your DVD-RW drive as a CD-ROM, as DOS predates DVDs...
Maybe there is a nice simple solution. Download the firmware upgrade.
http://www.liteonit.com.tw/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_firmware_dvd rw.asp
Scroll down until you see SOHW 812S and download the latest file, which is only a month old
 

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ok, i followed your intructions then tried to install again and everything came out the same way :(
i thought after upgrading the firmware it would have updated the driver to but still says it's using a microsoft driver from 1999.
 

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Ok, well I conferred with my dad on the issue, because he's from the DOS days, and confirmed a suspicion. You need what are called real-mode drivers. We need to find drivers for your drive that are specific for DOS, so that you can boot with them. This is for LiteOn IDE drives, and it might not work, but download this:
http://www.cdrom-drivers.com/drivers/68/68967.htm

Now we have to edit the Autoexec.bat file and the config.sys file.
It doesn't matter where you have the driver, you can put it into any folder you want, but I'm going to use the example of it in C:/
Paste into your AUTOEXEC.EXE file:
LOADHIGH=C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /F:MATT

Paste into your CONFIG.SYS file:
DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM.SYS /F:MATT

Now reboot. By the way, the /F:MATT thing is just the name of the drive. It can be anything you want, just as long as it starts with "/(driveletter):" and they match.
 

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ahhh! I have that game! I think I did get it to install, but it would not run (of course, my old computer was crapppy wappy, and I didn't know nearly as much back then as I do now)

Most CD drives do require a real mode driver to run in dos, it's what allows anyone to install win98

You didn't need a windows 98 boot disk, you needed a windows 98 STARTUP disk, which can load a real-move driver for your cdrom for you
 
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