first off water cooling isnt really needed for a system that isnt overclocked.the parts you have chosen for a self build are top notch for sure.4gigs of ram is overkill for now,however if you dont know how to build a pc that may be a problem.also do you have any friends that do build pc's,if so maybe get one of them to help you.as far as memory check evga's website to see if they have a memory compatibility list.
Build my own or Buy a Dell XPS 710 H2c
My old computer is just old. I done revamping it. Time for a new one. My question is this. I'm a computer noob. I don't know much but I know a little. I put in a new power source and graphics card in my old one. I don't know how much knowledge it takes to build a whole new computer with all new parts compare to a power source and graphics card. What would be a wiser way to go? Build my own or buy a Dell XPS 710 H2C? Money does not matter. I want an ultimate gaming rig. Would it be hard to build on my own with the limited knowledge that I have?
These are the computer parts that i have in mind if I build my own. Feel free to remodify my list if you think I can build my own computer on my own.
Intel® CoreTM 2 Extreme QX6700 quad-core processor
EVGa 122-CK-NF68-AR Motherboard or Striker Extreme Motherboard
What would u recommend for RAM 2 or 4GB, and what kind of ram and who?
Sound Blaster® X-FiTM XtremeMusic
dual NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTX graphics cards.
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM x2 for Raid 0
Data drive maybe 100 to 250 GB (what do u recommend)
PLEXTOR Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 6X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 4X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 8M Cache IDE Slot Load DVD Burner
Vista Premium
Monitor wise, I don't know what to get? i want something between 200 to 400 dollar range.
Case-Thermaltake Kandalf VA9000SWA Silver Chassis: 1.0mm Aluminum, Front Bezel: Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
1kw power source of something
am I missing anything else? Do I need cables for this? Should I water cool this or not? I don't know how to overclock and probably won't. So would it be wise to stick with fans to cool this off or use a water cooling system?
Any other suggestions or stick with the Dell XPS 710 H2C.
Thanks,
Red
These are the computer parts that i have in mind if I build my own. Feel free to remodify my list if you think I can build my own computer on my own.
Intel® CoreTM 2 Extreme QX6700 quad-core processor
EVGa 122-CK-NF68-AR Motherboard or Striker Extreme Motherboard
What would u recommend for RAM 2 or 4GB, and what kind of ram and who?
Sound Blaster® X-FiTM XtremeMusic
dual NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTX graphics cards.
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM x2 for Raid 0
Data drive maybe 100 to 250 GB (what do u recommend)
PLEXTOR Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 6X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 4X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 8M Cache IDE Slot Load DVD Burner
Vista Premium
Monitor wise, I don't know what to get? i want something between 200 to 400 dollar range.
Case-Thermaltake Kandalf VA9000SWA Silver Chassis: 1.0mm Aluminum, Front Bezel: Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
1kw power source of something
am I missing anything else? Do I need cables for this? Should I water cool this or not? I don't know how to overclock and probably won't. So would it be wise to stick with fans to cool this off or use a water cooling system?
Any other suggestions or stick with the Dell XPS 710 H2C.
Thanks,
Red
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i know a little about building from gaming magazines. I feel comfortable building my own, i was worried about the cooling part. I just wanna make sure the fans are adequate enough which you reassured me. any good websites for building? thanks for info
thanks for website info
IMO Redd....build it. In the XPS line, Dell uses enthusiast parts, but I still don't like them. Even if I was recreating the 710 H2C I'd still build myself. In all honesty, building is as simple as putting together a model, you just need to know what is compatible and a little research here and there will tell you that. The only thing that might give you hassle is diagnosing any problems after the rig is assembled. That can be a pain, but if you've done enough research to make sure everything is compatible, then nothing short of a bad chip will give you greif.
Word.
Build it and be happy. Buy Dell and, well, be not happy.
Build it and be happy. Buy Dell and, well, be not happy.
Water cooling is for the experienced techy.
Not for a first time builder thats my out look on it.
I'd build your own its well worth it.
Not for a first time builder thats my out look on it.
I'd build your own its well worth it.
get the dual 8800's. but only use one till you get full vista.
8800's cause havoc in a lot of games, and that's with just one, two would be disaster.
also, get the 4gb, but only install 2 again untill you get vista.
skip the water cooling and get vga coolers and a higher-end cpu cooler.
8800's cause havoc in a lot of games, and that's with just one, two would be disaster.
also, get the 4gb, but only install 2 again untill you get vista.
skip the water cooling and get vga coolers and a higher-end cpu cooler.
thanks for info, is it worth getting the 64 bit vista or 32bit,is there a 64 bit? remember just used as a ideal gaming system?
64 bit is a lot better now than it was 2 months ago... if you were going XP i'd say no, but because you're getting vista i say go for it!
As Gamah said, get the 64-bit version of Vista. Using a 64-bit OS with a 64-bit CPU will increase your performance in-game. Since 64-bit is the way of the future, it also future-proofs your system.
Each copy of Vista has both a 32bit and 64bit on the same disc. You make the choice of which version you would like when you install the OS.thanks for info, is it worth getting the 64 bit vista or 32bit,is there a 64 bit? remember just used as a ideal gaming system?
This has some good information about the pro's and con's of going for the x64 OS.
been googling, and still can't get a real clear answer, is premium my choice to go with? I think on what I've read for gaming wise, premium will do the same as ultimate except ultimate has a few more extras that aren't necessary for gaming? Am i correct?
If money is no object... Ok i am no fan of mac but... if you cosomize the mac pros you can get quad coal intel with 16 gb ram and 3 tb of hd with 2 nvidia 8800 gtxs then just particion the hard drive and install windows =) srry about the spelling
Why customize a Mac when you could just build a PC with the same specs, would probably be cheaper to do so. (Also not a big fan of Macs.)If money is no object... Ok i am no fan of mac but... if you cosomize the mac pros you can get quad coal intel with 16 gb ram and 3 tb of hd with 2 nvidia 8800 gtxs then just particion the hard drive and install windows =) srry about the spelling
Forgive my ignorance, Tiber, but I'm a little confused... if each copy of Vista has both 32 and 64 bit installation options, why are there seperate retail packages for the 32 and 64 bit versions?Each copy of Vista has both a 32bit and 64bit on the same disc. You make the choice of which version you would like when you install the OS.
This has some good information about the pro's and con's of going for the x64 OS.
Because Microsoft likes to make things confusing for poor consumers such as ourselves. :laugh:
I got my copy of Vista today (Ultimate, Full RTM) and the fact is there is the choice of both 32bit and 64bit in the same package...
There is two DVD's, one for 32bit installation, one for 64bit.
I haven't heard of them being sold seperately before but it may be possible, i know you can order Vista as CD's rather than DVD's so i assume you could get them seperately.
As i said, i haven't heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Edit: Do you mean the Upgrades, not the Full versions? If so, yes, i know you can get the upgrade versions of Vista seperately in 32bit or 64 bit.
I got my copy of Vista today (Ultimate, Full RTM) and the fact is there is the choice of both 32bit and 64bit in the same package...
There is two DVD's, one for 32bit installation, one for 64bit.
I haven't heard of them being sold seperately before but it may be possible, i know you can order Vista as CD's rather than DVD's so i assume you could get them seperately.
As i said, i haven't heard of it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Edit: Do you mean the Upgrades, not the Full versions? If so, yes, i know you can get the upgrade versions of Vista seperately in 32bit or 64 bit.
no, I was talking about the full versions, but I didn't realize I was talking about the OEM full versions. 
Thanks for the heads up... if you hadn't of said anything I probably would have bought the 32bit OEM version.. and then when 64-bit gets implemented a little better I would have been up the creek.
Thanks for the heads up... if you hadn't of said anything I probably would have bought the 32bit OEM version.. and then when 64-bit gets implemented a little better I would have been up the creek.
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