Another nVidia BSOD

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Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · Sep 11, 2005

I've done a search and haven't found my problem, so here it is. I've biult a new system, (my singnature shows the specs), and have had this error from the beginning:
The system starts up, gets to my desktop, then after about 3-8 minutes, this BSOD occurs. You know, "Windows has encountered a fatal error...yada yada yada....The error is caused by the nv4_disp .... check for updated drivers....."
The stop code is never the exact same, but here's one:
stop ..0x000000EA (0x81B01020, 0x81E20E20, 0x81F46F10, 0x00000001)

Then, when I reset my computer, it runs fine, no problem. This only seems to happen if the computer has been turned off for a half an hour or more.

The error singnature when Windows restarts is:
szAppName: DriversDisplay szAppVer: 10DE0185C100000000
szModName: nv4_Disp.dll szModVer: 6.14.10.7772 offsetEBDA06EA

file to be inclded in error report:
C:\Windows\LogFiles\Watchdog|050911_1057_01.wdl

The error singnature is always the same as well as the file to be inluded in the error report. Only the "stpo" code is changing

I've tried the driver that came with the card, an updated driver from the nVidia site, and a forceware driver from download.com, all with the same result.

I've read that turning off fast write memory may stop this, but I can't find such an option in either Windows or my BIOS.

Can anyone help me stop this error?

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dai

· #2 · Sep 11, 2005

nv4 dll error usually indicates the driver install corrupted
in the device manager uninstall the card
reboot tapping f8 and choose vga mode
when windows finishes reinstalling the card
disable a/virus
install your drivers
reboot the computer

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 12, 2005

I followed the above instructions to the letter, and it's still happening. I did the same procedure when I initially installed the drivers, (the instructions that came with the card said to disable anti-virus apps and remove all other video drivers before installing the nVidia drivers).

Why does it only happen when the computer is cold? Why does it run fine after a restart? I don't understand. What's happening after restart to make it run without fail?

Nevermind all those questions, they're all out of frustration. Where can I turn off the fast write to memory, (I've read that that sometimes works), ?

dai

· #4 · Sep 12, 2005

check you are not underpowered
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
based on a quality supply and add 30% to the result

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #5 · Sep 12, 2005

The calculator says 275 watts. Plus 30% = 329 watts. I have a 400 watt PSU. I must reiterate, the unit runs fine after I hit the reset button, I only get this error when I start the unit after it has been off for more than 15 minutes.

dai

· #6 · Sep 12, 2005

is your supply a quality supply or generic

ebackhus

· #7 · Sep 12, 2005

In addition to that, what are the amperes?

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #8 · Sep 12, 2005

Correction - 450 watt PSU(max) .The brand is "Okia". Amps? There's a chart on the side that says 115v/220v 10A/5A
under that: 28A/50A

I have another PSU. A Chiefmax 450 watt that I was planning on using in another unit, is it any better?
115V/230V 10A/6A
28A/30A (written under the voltage)

ebackhus

· #9 · Sep 13, 2005

It'll say something like...
3.3v - 30a
12v - 20a
etc.

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 13, 2005

Yeah, 3.3v - 28A.
The Chiefmax is the same.

dai

· #11 · Sep 13, 2005

list them as
12v =
+5v=
3.3v=
ect.
they look generic equal to about a 300w quality supply

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 13, 2005 (Edited)

The Chiefmax:
+12v=28a
+5v=30a
+3.3v=28a

Are you saying that I'm underpowered? If so, why does the unit run fine after a restart?

ebackhus

· #13 · Sep 13, 2005

Youve got great amperes on there. It could be a voltage fluctatuin problem. Everyst and SiSoft Sandra can watch your voltages in real time. Run either and report back anything such as dips and spikes.

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 13, 2005

Do you mean "Everest"? I'm running the sensor now, and my +5v is at 5.03, steady. My +12v is 9.02, going as high as 9.75 while I'm typing. It just dropped again, to 8.99, up to 9.75. down to 9.15, so it is fluctuating.
All the other voltages seem to be quite steady. 9.15 seems to be the idle voltage for the +12v . Is this amount of fluctuation normal?

ebackhus

· #15 · Sep 13, 2005

11.98 would be normal. anything less is VERY bad. Get a new PSU in there as soon as you can.

whodat

· #16 · Sep 13, 2005

My +12v is 9.02, going as high as 9.75 while I'm typing. It just dropped again, to 8.99, up to 9.75. down to 9.15, so it is fluctuating.

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Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #17 · Sep 13, 2005

ebackhus said:
11.98 would be normal. anything less is VERY bad. Get a new PSU in there as soon as you can.

I just put the Chiefmax in, and it's even lower!, (7.74v), but it skyrockets to 12.33+, then straight down to 7.-something.
Will a quality PSU stop this error?

crazijoe

· #18 · Sep 14, 2005

Fluxuating voltages are not goo I would definitely get a quality PSU like antec or enermax.

whosdat, where did you get your PSU list from?

dai

· #19 · Sep 14, 2005

with it doing the same on 2 power supplies,i would try and borrow a quality supply first or get one from a place with a restocking policy

Blitzkreig75

Discussion Starter · #20 · Sep 15, 2005

I've fixed the problem! Apparently, the OS itself was corrupted. I did a fresh install of XP on another HDD, acting on a whim, and it's working fie. The installation went fine on the other drive, (the one with the error), but the new install doesn't get the error. Both drives are new, so that's not an issue. What went wrong, who knows. I am going to get a good PSU anyway, because I'm not even close to putting everything into the unit that I want. This video card is only a hold-over untill I can get one of those new Radeon XP800's. I'm certain I will need more power then.But it's working fine, for now, and that's good enough.

Thanks to everyone for their input and help.

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