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Old 07-11-2014, 07:48 AM   #1
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The U.S. House of Representatives will sue President Barack Obama’s administration over delaying the implementation of an employer health insurance mandate in the 2010 health-care law.
Last fall, they shut down the government, taking millions of dollars from citizens and dinging the economy for two quarters with the goal of delaying the implementation of ACA . . .

So, POTUS delays it and now they want to file a lawsuit ( Carefully timed so as not to be thrown out of court until after the elections )

. . . and they wonder where the tag of "Lunatic Fringe" comes from . . .

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I read this earlier.......this pathetic congress is not doing anything for the American people. The only thing they (republicans) want to do is attack the president.....over anything. I may vote party line in Nov. for the first time.

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I feel they should ALL be replaced bu a potus and congress that are made up of WORKING people, people that have a clue, and are willing to help the country, instead of themselves
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:44 AM   #4
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Veddy Inderesding . .

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House members at home for August recess might want to hide their congressional pins: A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds a record-high share of Americans disapprove of their own congressman/woman.

Just over half the public, 51 percent, say they disapprove of the job that their own member of Congress is doing in the new poll, rising above the 50 percent threshold for the first time in the quarter-century of Post-ABC polling on this question. Just 41 percent approve. That's a new low, though it's not significantly different from ratings last October (43 percent), immediately after the end of a 16-day partial government shutdown that sent Republican approval ratings through the floor.
Could be some more Cantoring in the works! !

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Could be some more Cantoring in the works! !
The devil you know or the devil you don't know??? Regardless >90% will be reelected. That's why they really don't give a rat's rear end that they accomplish anything.
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You might be right, but I certainly hope not! . . If there was ever a place that was deserving of a good sweeping out, it is our congress

Can't find time to properly fund the VA and the Immigration response, but somehow find time to vote for a ridiculous suit POTUS and give money to Israel . .
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Israel is in a pretty good position where the US is concerned; US Christians want preserved because it is the "Holy Land," US Jews want it preserved because it is a "Jewish state," conservatives want it preserved because it is a US "ally" in the region -- no President is ever going to get elected on a platform that includes reducing aid to Israel. Not mention that the arms dealers want it preserved because it is a huge market for US weapons.

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Has Israel ever helped the US in a war? I know that it has attacked a US ship.

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But we jump thru hoops while domestic needs are ignored
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Israel is in a pretty good position where the US is concerned; US Christians want preserved because it is the "Holy Land," US Jews want it preserved because it is a "Jewish state," conservatives want it preserved because it is a US "ally" in the region -- no President is ever going to get elected on a platform that includes reducing aid to Israel. Not mention that the arms dealers want it preserved because it is a huge market for US weapons.





Has Israel ever helped the US in a war? I know that it has attacked a US ship.

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That's why I laugh when the nitwits scream Take care of the people here first - stop all foreign aid. They don't realize that most of the aid they're so bent on halting actually is F16's going to Israel or the like.
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Foreign aid is a complex subject and it would be unwise, if not immoral, for a wealthy country to totally dispense with it. One hopes that those who control the nation's policies and purse strings have a modicum of intelligence. Unfortunately, it's often the most charismatic rather than the most intelligent who get elected.

Sometimes foreign aid works well. I taught in a US-Aid sponsored program where the best and brightest students from all over Central America were given the opportunity to study natural resources management in the US. Not only did these students attain a degree and make American friends they then returned home more able to help promote US global ecological interests. Also, many of these kids are going to be "up and comers" in their countries. For instance, in a male-dominated Latin America, one of my students was the first female, ever, to receive a full scholarship at her country's oldest university. It's pretty cheap foreign relations to pay twenty thousand dollars to gain an intelligent friend of America.
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Total US foreign aid - not including military - was about $25B in 2013. That's a lot to you and me but compare it to the total federal budget of $3,700B. Plus, that's spread across 180 or so countries (including our true friends in Afghanistan and Pakistan. )
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The US, with arguably the most powerful military in the world, spends an enormous $680 billion a year on its military. However, this is only 3.8% of the GDP. $680 billion seems like, and is, an enormous amount of money but it is actually less relative military spending than its been many times in the past. During the time of "the greatest generation" the US spent 40% of its GDP on the military, which would be the equivalent of 6.7 trillion dollars a year today.
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You know I finally actually thought for a moment about the header of this thread before this post and I have a question
if we deserve the government we elect, what about those of us that DID NOT vote for any of the ones in power, what government do WE deserve? And why do we have to put up with the messed up one somebody else elected :)



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