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Old 12-06-2017, 04:34 PM   #1
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Trump declared the capital of Israel to be Jerusalem.....
Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital - CNNPolitics
I am starting to wonder my mother was correct when she said that I would see Armageddon in my lifetime, because she told me that country with a powerful man in power wold declare the holy city of Jerusalem as Israel's capital before the war started.
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Trump didn't declare Jerusaleum to be the capitol of Israel. The Israel government did that years ago. Trump merely followed the law, passed in 1995, and signed by Clinton, that recognizes Jerusaleum as the capitol of Israel, and authorizes moving the embassy there.
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Was NOT signed by Clinton.

Congress passed act to accept Jerusalem as Israel capital in 1995 - NY Daily News
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So he didn't sign it, but it still became law. And, whatever happened to that peace process?
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So he didn't sign it, but it still became law. And, whatever happened to that peace process?
Weather or not Clinton Signed it or not doesn't matter, Trump did so the Media is going to turn the bash fest into the major story instead of the real issue at hand, that's why I posted it here, I want the truth and intelligent conversation, not CNN
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Where do you find "truth and intelligent conversation" ??
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So he didn't sign it, but it still became law. And, whatever happened to that peace process?
Peace won't happen.....even though succeeding presidents waived the law every 6 months and did not move the embassy to Jerusalem. As much as I hate to side with Trump this may be a good call......it's gonna take all out war to settle this dispute. I have no doubts that war is eminent.
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When you have a group of people whose avowed purpose is the destruction of the state of Israel, what other possible outcome could be expected. However those same people have tried in the past to do that and have been resoundingly "spanked" by Israel each time in the process!

When you keep doing the same stupid thing and expect a different outcome it is called insanity. Any group or movement which tries to start a conflict with Israel will be met with an overwhelming force in response to their actions. When will these groups realize it is better to sit down and hammer out their differences, than to keep up these meaningless skirmishes that only cost innocent lives and needless destruction?

Hasn't this useless
(centuries long) suffering and bickering gone on long enough??

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Yes indeed it has!!!!!!!!!!

Trump is no good................ FOR ANY OF US!!!!
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Where do you find "truth and intelligent conversation" ??

Out of the entire internet, work, grocery stores and the such THIS is the only place I have EVER found truth and intelligent conversation. the barber shop in town is a close second
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Trump should take care of US instead of interfering into other countries matters, especially sensitive matters like this one.
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Any president should and should have
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Israel established Jerusalem as their capitol city in the 1980 Jerusalem Law proclamation, which declared a "complete and united" Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Slowly and delicately several other sovereign nations have recognized this at various times over the intervening period until today.


The (US) Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 reads "Jerusalem should be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel; and the United States Embassy in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than 31 May 1999". The Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel concluded that the provisions of the bill "invade exclusive presidential authorities in the field of foreign affairs and are unconstitutional."

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What the President did was under his designated sole authority in foreign affairs to recognize a city as a capitol, and to declare that the official embassy should be located there. It's just that no other prior President has had the 'cajones' to do what, as is his official duty, Congress decided way back in 1999 should be done! In terms of the specific intent of the US Congress, it was way overdue.
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So that proves that basically the Trump administration recognizes it as Israels capital too like presidents before Trump did.
which proves my point that got me banned from Faciestbook, those who wish to destroy the United States will scream and cry about anything they can
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I (try to) keep all of my most cherished political views confined to private e-mails and long-standing discussions (arguments?) with known opposite viewpoints.

I do so enjoy these skirmishes as I hve been known to win many arguments by sheer brute force of FACTS as opposed to lame-stream media agenda based and biased talking points.

I have so enjoyed throwing recorded statements by current 'opposition leaders' who have made the same basic statements as the current administration, when it suited their agenda at the time. Schumer and Pelosi are a treasure trove of prior clips AGREEING with current actions and policies, when it was their standard bearer in the White House.

This item is of particular comic value:





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Hypocrisy much?


The past four official Democratic Party platforms have recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

The 2016 party platform read, "While Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations, it should remain the capital of Israel, an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths. Israelis deserve security, recognition, and a normal life free from terror and incitement."
In 2008, the platform read, "Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths."
In 2004, the document read, "Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths."
The party's view on Jerusalem's status created an unusual display at the 2012 Democratic National Convention. Initially, the platform omitted language about Jerusalem altogether, sparking a backlash from the pro-Israel community.
Then-President Barack Obama himself intervened to reinstate the line about Jerusalem as Israel's capital in the 2012 platform.
where there seemed to be as many "nays" as "ayes" to approve the amendment about Jerusalem, convention chairman Antonio Villaraigosa eventually declared it for the "ayes," leading to loud booing.


Last Four Democratic Party Platforms Have Called Jerusalem the Capital of Israel

I like facts versus lame-stream-media bias!


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