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Old 06-09-2016, 04:30 PM   #1
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Perhaps this is the way the US will be conducting business in the future.

Yes, it's called negotiating. You make an agreement but when the bill is due you 'negotiate'. Contractor A has an outstanding reputation for timely, quality work.....Contractor B is much cheaper but doesn't have the same credentials. OK...here's what we do. We hire contractor A and when the project is completed we negotiate to get the price we want to pay....not what was agreed on. We can run the contractor's legal costs so high that they will have to accept what we originally wanted......the cheaper price that we didn't want to pay for quality work. So what if we ruined a family business?? Another family will come along to take their place.....we just have to tell people they have to work harder to achieve their goals. If it gets to the point where they've worked hard enough but we don't want to pay them their fair due we play our Trump card.

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

I'm sure this is only the tip of the iceberg......there are many who wouldn't bother fighting a losing battle.
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We should use this tactic against China.
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We should use this tactic against China.
Huge difference how nations deal with each other versus how businesses or individuals. That's why having years of private business experience but no government experience is not a positive credential for a candidate. But that fact is lost on most people.

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Believe it or not, ... there’s a reasonable argument to be made that part of what ails the world economy right now is that governments aren’t deep enough in debt. LINK
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And I would stipulate the same but opposite. Having all political experience and trying to run a country which has huge financial obligations is a recipe for disaster. The founders made it know they didn't want lawyers to be presidents, yet it happens all the time. The country is falling apart. How much worse could it actually get if someone with a lot of business experience was at the helm for a term.

Right now the financials of this country and most of the others are ready to bottom out.

Holding nearly unlimited amounts of debt is not a good thing, and saying that we should have much more debt to "solve our problems" is a moronic thing to believe. Eventually you have to pay the piper.
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Holding nearly unlimited amounts of debt is not a good thing, and saying that we should have much more debt to "solve our problems" is a moronic thing to believe. Eventually you have to pay the piper.
Said the cabinet maker to the Noble Laureate...

You and I have to eventually pay - you're correct. Countries do not. Our debt to the French for the revolution was never repaid; it was just converted to other debt.

Can you admit getting people to invest in our country is a good thing? What our national debt really means is that people with money to invest think loaning it to the US is a safe investment. And they're right. They'll get their money and the agreed to interest. And at today's low rates we should be encouraging people to loan us their money not discouraging it.
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I read this article the other day....more negotiating.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/ny...city.html?_r=0

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But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.
Investors.....like average people playing the stock market?? Telling voters he's on the side of the little guy?? Sure he's on their side....as long as they invest in ventures he can use to transfer assets to himself and leave the liability as a reward for being a believer that anything Trump does is a 'Yuuuge' success.

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“Atlantic City fueled a lot of growth for me,” Mr. Trump said in an interview in May, summing up his 25-year history here. “The money I took out of there was incredible.”
Yep.....he was a success. Too bad his casinos weren't. Put very little of his own money in the pot and took out what the investors had put in. "That's the way you do it.......money for nothing and chicks for free"
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And I would stipulate the same but opposite. Having all political experience and trying to run a country which has huge financial obligations is a recipe for disaster. The founders made it know they didn't want lawyers to be presidents, yet it happens all the time. The country is falling apart. How much worse could it actually get if someone with a lot of business experience was at the helm for a term.

Right now the financials of this country and most of the others are ready to bottom out.

Holding nearly unlimited amounts of debt is not a good thing, and saying that we should have much more debt to "solve our problems" is a moronic thing to believe. Eventually you have to pay the piper.
This from the same financial genius who told us that the Fed was privately owned . .
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