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Old 11-09-2012, 05:04 PM   #1
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My family just moved last night and I have been experiencing intermittent drops of my wireless connection since. We started a new service with Time Warner cable, so we have cable internet.

I tested one of the pc's in our house and it was getting a solid 9 mb/s, my pc just got 1 mb/s.

About 4 or 5 times since last night my pc has been cutting out. The "bars" icon in Windows 7 turns to the "bars with a star" and then I double click on the network to connect and it says "failed to connect". I go through the troubleshooter and it fixes the connection and I'm on my merry way.

This is super annoying. We have a Motorola Surfboard modem(not sure on the model as it is currently buried behind boxes) and a Belkin N600 router. Is my 4 year old computer just too old to run this? I can't believe that. I know it's not my network as my phone does not experience a drop in connection, only my pc does. The modem is also dual band, although I can only access the 2.5Ghz and not the 5 on my laptop.

I have an HP dv7-3065dx laptop with Aetheros wireless card. Windows does not show an update, but I tried updating anyways from a link I found here and that pretty much killed my wireless card. I was able to do a system restore and fix the issue.

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C:\Users\hp>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : hp-PC
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 0A-60-76-62-CA-19
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-26-9E-50-37-20
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : Belkin
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 0C-60-76-62-CA-19
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::61b1:f15b:5429:5289%10(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.5(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, November 09, 2012 7:35:57 PM
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 17, 2148 2:20:22 AM
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
   DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 185360502
   DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-53-78-28-0C-60-76-62-CA-19

   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{EA79EE57-BD37-4E7A-9D8A-890AE6FF26D8}:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Reusable ISATAP Interface {960C09A2-EA7A-4F9D-9DEB-E208D27B2465}:


   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter 6TO4 Adapter:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.gateway.2wire.net:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{355988CE-AA56-45B2-A9C1-E7FF26CC0092}:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\hp>
Thank you in advance!
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:18 PM   #2
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Nevermind, I changed the channel to 11 and it looks as though it may be working. I will be posting back if there is any change. I'm getting speeds of 30 mb/s now though (we should only have 10 but not complaining)
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:43 PM   #4
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Okay, about once a week my network suddenly starts bugging out again.

Same thing as my intro post. I updated my drivers from a link I found here which killed my wireless card. I was able to roll back. Changed my router's channel to 11. Then it was fine for a week. Then it started glitching again so I uninstalled my driver and reinstalled it. My computer was great for another week until today it's cut out twice.

I attached a new Wifi Inspector....any ideas? Is my adapter going bad?
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The other WAP moved to channel 11 . . try going back to channel 1
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Changed it and then my internet dropped about a minute later. It ran me through the troubleshooting and resetting my network adapter stuff.

Here is the log that Windows gave me, if it helps.

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Windows Network Diagnostics Publisher details 

Issues found 
Problem with wireless adapter or access pointProblem with wireless adapter or access point Fixed  
Reset the wireless adapter Completed 
Investigate router or access point issues Not run 
Refer to Windows Help and Support for more information about wireless connectivity problems Not run 
 

Issues found Detection details 

6 Problem with wireless adapter or access point Fixed  
 
Reset the wireless adapter Completed 
 
Network Diagnostics Log 
File Name:  5EE81819-069E-4571-979D-DE443B930AFB.Repair.1.etl 
 
 
Investigate router or access point issues Not run 
 
If you're connected to a hotspot or domain network, contact the network administrator. Otherwise: 1. Unplug or turn off the device. 2. After all the lights on the device are off, wait at least 10 seconds. 3. Turn the device back on or plug it back into the power outlet. To restart a router or access point that has a built-in battery, press and quickly release the Reset button. 
Refer to Windows Help and Support for more information about wireless connectivity problems Not run 
 
Windows cannot resolve your wireless connectivity issue. 
 

Detection details  

Diagnostics Information (Network Adapter) 
Details about network adapter diagnosis: 

Network adapter Wireless Network Connection driver information:

   Description . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
   Manufacturer  . . . . . . . . . : Atheros Communications Inc.
   Provider  . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros Communications Inc.
   Version   . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.0.0.316
   Inf File Name . . . . . . . . . : C:\Windows\INF\oem30.inf
   Inf File Date . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, March 02, 2010  8:59:42 PM
   Section Name  . . . . . . . . . : ATHR_DEV_OS61_H30A1.ndi
   Hardware ID . . . . . . . . . . : pci\ven_168c&dev_002b&subsys_303f103c
   Instance Status Flags . . . . . : 0x180200a
   Device Manager Status Code  . . : 0
   IfType  . . . . . . . . . . . . : 71
   Physical Media Type . . . . . . : 9

 
 
Diagnostics Information (Wireless Connectivity) 
Details about wireless connectivity diagnosis: 

Information for connection being diagnosed
 Interface GUID: b7e6ec3f-0d2d-4094-a8df-f75af0aab6e2
 Interface name: Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
 Interface type: Native WiFi
 Profile: Socks
 SSID: Socks
 SSID length: 5
 Connection mode: Infra
 Security: Yes
 Connect even if network is not broadcasting: No

Connection incident diagnosed
 Auto Configuration ID: 3
 Connection ID: 5

Connection status summary
 Connection started at: 2012-11-20 20:50:39-716
 Profile match: Success
 Pre-Association: Success
 Association: Fail
 Security and Authentication: Not started

List of visible access point(s): 2 item(s) total, 2 item(s) displayed
        BSSID		BSS Type PHY	Signal(dB)	Chnl/freq    SSID
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
EC-1A-59-09-92-19	Infra	 <unknown>	-35		9	 Socks
00-1D-7E-3C-13-B2	Infra	 g	-91		6	 linksys

Connection History

 Information for Auto Configuration ID 3

  List of visible networks: 2 item(s) total, 2 item(s) displayed
  BSS Type PHY	Security	Signal(RSSI)	Compatible	SSID
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Infra	 <unknown>	Yes		100	Yes		Socks
  Infra	 g	No		12	Yes		linksys

  List of preferred networks: 1 item(s)
   Profile: Socks
    SSID: Socks
    SSID length: 5
    Connection mode: Infra
    Security: Yes
    Set by group policy: No
    Connect even if network is not broadcasting: No
    Connectable: Yes

 Information for Connection ID 5
 Connection started at: 2012-11-20 20:50:39-716
  Auto Configuration ID: 3
  Profile: Socks
  SSID: Socks
  SSID length: 5
  Connection mode: Infra
  Security: Yes
  Pre-Association and Association
   Connectivity settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Security settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Profile matches network requirements: Success
   Pre-association status: Success
   Association status: Fail 0x00038002
   Association reason code: 0x00000002

 Information for Auto Configuration ID 2

  List of visible networks: 2 item(s) total, 2 item(s) displayed
  BSS Type PHY	Security	Signal(RSSI)	Compatible	SSID
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Infra	 <unknown>	Yes		100	Yes		Socks
  Infra	 g	No		14	Yes		linksys

  List of preferred networks: 1 item(s)
   Profile: Socks
    SSID: Socks
    SSID length: 5
    Connection mode: Infra
    Security: Yes
    Set by group policy: No
    Connect even if network is not broadcasting: No
    Connectable: No
     Reason: 0x00028006

 Information for Connection ID 4
 Connection started at: 2012-11-20 20:50:35-769
  Auto Configuration ID: 2
  Profile: Socks
  SSID: Socks
  SSID length: 5
  Connection mode: Infra
  Security: Yes
  Pre-Association and Association
   Connectivity settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Security settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Profile matches network requirements: Success
   Pre-association status: Success
   Association status: Fail 0x00038002
   Association reason code: 0x00000002

 Information for Connection ID 3
 Connection started at: 2012-11-20 20:50:28-729
  Auto Configuration ID: 2
  Profile: Socks
  SSID: Socks
  SSID length: 5
  Connection mode: Infra
  Security: Yes
  Pre-Association and Association
   Connectivity settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Security settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Profile matches network requirements: Success
   Pre-association status: Success
   Association status: Fail 0x00038002
   Association reason code: 0x00000002

 Information for Connection ID 2
 Connection started at: 2012-11-20 20:50:25-925
  Auto Configuration ID: 2
  Profile: Socks
  SSID: Socks
  SSID length: 5
  Connection mode: Infra
  Security: Yes
  Pre-Association and Association
   Connectivity settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Security settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Profile matches network requirements: Success
   Pre-association status: Success
   Association status: Fail 0x00038002
   Association reason code: 0x00000002

 Information for Auto Configuration ID 1

  List of visible networks: 2 item(s) total, 2 item(s) displayed
  BSS Type PHY	Security	Signal(RSSI)	Compatible	SSID
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Infra	 <unknown>	Yes		100	Yes		Socks
  Infra	 g	No		8	Yes		linksys

  List of preferred networks: 1 item(s)
   Profile: Socks
    SSID: Socks
    SSID length: 5
    Connection mode: Infra
    Security: Yes
    Set by group policy: No
    Connect even if network is not broadcasting: No
    Connectable: Yes

 Information for Connection ID 1
 Connection started at: 2012-11-20 20:36:17-335
  Auto Configuration ID: 1
  Profile: Socks
  SSID: Socks
  SSID length: 5
  Connection mode: Infra
  Security: Yes
  Pre-Association and Association
   Connectivity settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Security settings provided by hardware manufacturer (IHV): No
   Profile matches network requirements: Success
   Pre-association status: Success
   Association status: Success
    Last AP:  ec-1a-59-09-92-19
  Security and Authentication
   Configured security type: WPA2-PSK
   Configured encryption type: CCMP(AES)
   802.1X protocol: No
   Key exchange initiated: Yes
    Unicast key received: Yes
    Multicast key received: Yes
   Number of security packets received: 0
   Number of security packets sent: 0
   Security attempt status: Success
 Connectivity
   Packet statistics
    Ndis Rx: 6
    Ndis Tx: 14
    Unicast decrypt success: 2062
    Multicast decrypt success: 0
    Unicast decrypt failure: 0
    Multicast decrypt failure: 0
    Rx success: 2343
    Rx failure: 1603
    Tx success: 2074
    Tx failure: 2
    Tx retry: 3
    Tx multiple retry: 2
    Tx max lifetime exceeded: 0
    Tx ACK failure: 1106
   Roaming history: 2 item(s)
     Times: 2012-11-20 20:50:14-785
    Roamed from BSSID:  ec-1a-59-09-92-19
     Reason: 0x00020001
     Times: 2012-11-20 20:49:02-977
    Roamed from BSSID:  ec-1a-59-09-92-19
     Reason: 0x00000002
 Disconnected from BSSID:  00-00-00-00-00-00   Reason: 0x00000205


 
 
Diagnostics Information (Wireless Connectivity) 
Details about wireless connectivity diagnosis: 

For complete information about this session see the wireless connectivity information event.

Helper Class: Auto Configuration
 Initialize status: Success

Information for connection being diagnosed
 Interface GUID: b7e6ec3f-0d2d-4094-a8df-f75af0aab6e2
 Interface name: Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
 Interface type: Native WiFi
 Profile: Socks
 SSID: Socks
 SSID length: 5
 Connection mode: Infra
 Security: Yes
 Connect even if network is not broadcasting: No

Result of diagnosis: Problem found
 Issue referred to: RNWF MSM Helper Class

Root cause:
Windows could not connect to "Socks"
You can try to connect again.

Repair option:
Reset your wireless network adapter
This will disable and then enable the network adapter "Wireless Network Connection" on this computer.


 
 
Diagnostics Information (Wireless Network Adapter) 
Details about wireless network adapter diagnosis: 

For complete information about this session see the wireless connectivity information event.

Helper Class: Native WiFi MSM
 Initialize status: Success

Information for connection being diagnosed
 Interface GUID: b7e6ec3f-0d2d-4094-a8df-f75af0aab6e2
 Interface name: Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
 Interface type: Native WiFi
 Profile: Socks
 SSID: Socks
 SSID length: 5
 Connection mode: Infra
 Security: Yes
 Connect even if network is not broadcasting: No

Result of diagnosis: Problem found

Root cause:
Wireless association to "Socks" failed
A response was not received from the router or access point.

Detailed root cause:
Wireless association to this network failed. Windows did not receive any response from the wireless router or accesspoint.

Repair option:
Look for causes of low wireless signal quality
The signal is weak due to distance or interference.
Windows Help and Support can provide more information about this problem.


 
 
Network Diagnostics Log 
File Name:  5EE81819-069E-4571-979D-DE443B930AFB.Diagnose.0.etl 
 
Other Networking Configuration and Logs 
File Name:  NetworkConfiguration.cab 
 
Collection information 
Computer Name:  HP-PC 
Windows Version: 6.1 
Architecture: amd64 
Time: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:50:40 PM 

Publisher details  

Windows Network Diagnostics 
Detects problems with network connectivity. 
Package Version: 1.0 
Publisher: Microsoft Windows
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The other user on channel 11 is too far away to cause you any interference, but as your Xirrus shot didn't show anyone on channel 6 - try that one.

First, from the HP support site, HP System Check for Notebook PCs see if downloading the driver from there has any adverse affects on your wireless card and then run the diagnostics.

The thing is that if it's working at the time - then the diagnostics probably wouldn't pick up if anything was wrong, unless when your connection does go down you could wire up and then run the program.

Is your Belkin behind the boxes as well ?

EDIT....Is your laptop in any particular location when you experience these loss of connections and/or is it any particular day or time of the day when they occur ?
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I switched to Channel 9, because another random wireless network popped up with Channel 6.

No the Belkin is all freed up now. We have an actual living room now instead of just a room full of boxes and mess.

I downloaded the driver from HP last week and am still having issues. I was also unable to run the diagnostics. I tried Chrome, Firefox and the dreaded IE and it wouldn't run (just kept running for like 5 minutes before I closed it).

The thing is, I never had a problem with dropped internet connection on my computer. We had ATT DSL and it constantly dropped on all devices (all 3 laptops, phones, etc) but literally day one of living with the new internet, router and modem and only my laptop is glitching. My parents have newer laptops than I do. One is an HP as well.
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Diagnostic programs can take some time to run as it will have been checking your whole system and not just your NIC - did it look as if it was working or just hung and have you wired up for it, if the NIC is playing up, then it could have stopped responding had you just been on wireless - but I would have expected it to have given that alert somewhere on its window and you would have probably have gotten some form of error showing on the wifi icon in the tray.

What about the location of your laptop when you get these disconnects ?
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Sorry didn't see your edit. My laptop is always in the same place. It maybe moves one foot. It's probably less than 15 feet away from the router (through a wall).

I was still using Wireless, but my connection did not drop during that time. On Chrome it shows that a plugin needs to be installed but does not allow me to click to install it. On Firefox, it tells me the plugin cannot be installed. On IE it installs I guess...but I let it run for over 20 minutes to no avail, seeing how it says it should only take 3 minutes something's obviously not right.
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Boot up in Safe Mode with Networking to see if those plug-ins will install then and what AV are you using ?

The Windows Diagnostics reported a weak signal even though Xirrus shows a strong signal between the laptop and the router.

Download inSSIDer inSSIDer Discover The Wi-Fi Around You | MetaGeek and click on the Time Graph to see if it's fluctuating by much - the time graph screen covers a period of 5 mins from right to left and is continuous from thereon.

Can you also take the laptop into the room where the router is located (if practical) to see if you still get the disconnects after running inSSIDer.
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Safe mode with networking didn't solve the HP issue. I'm using Windows Security Essentials...

About to Reboot and run inSSIDer....do you want me to run it until it disconnects or just for a bit? It's only disconnected 2 or 3 times in the last 3 hours, so it's not incredibly frequent, just annoying.
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If it's convenient for you to run it until it drops out then fine - it should show if it spikes downward.

The reason I was asking about the laptop's location was if it was close to any other electronic/electrical equipment that could be pulsing now and again to cause any interference - it could even be a central heating thermostat switch if it's close by.

I'm going to have to knock off now as it's just turned 0400 here in the UK and I don't have any matchsticks to prop my eyelids open, but will pop back in about 5hrs time.
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Well I'm letting it run right now until I go to bed shortly. Here are two screen shots I found interesting...but my internet connection has not dropped past the -40 to -50 range.

I'm quite surprised there are so many wireless networks in my area, it's a bit countryish. I have no idea what this Win93 thing is either. Google says it might be a printer or something? My gosh what do my my neighbors have?

Tomorrow night I can sit in the living room nearer the router and see if that makes a difference. I'll continue to run inSSIDer whenever I use my computer as well. I can't imagine it would be an interference from any electrical device since nothing is new to my laptop, per se. My phone and a lamp are the only things plugged in directly near my laptop. A tv and a wii are the only other things in my room really. Both have been exposed to my laptop as well though. Really the only thing that has changed is our cable/internet provider.
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I've never seen anything spike up as much as those before, but the phone interests me.

It's known that cordless phone bases situated near routers can interfere with wifi but I haven't came across where the the phone has been situated in close proximity to a computer and so far from the router, although it could still cause interence as any electrically noisy item could just as it's advised not to be within 3 - 10ft of a microwave with a computer - and especially when you're on channel 9 which is around its domain.

Was the phone similarily situated in your former home and do your parents have a similar setup to you in that they don't suffer the same dropouts ?
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Well, it's my cell phone if that makes a difference. We don't have a home phone here. My cell phone always is near my computer, even at our old house, my college, etc.
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Usually when intermittent disconnects occur and it isn't because of interference from other channel users and it only affects one machine in a particular location, you normally check to see if anything could be producing REIN ::. Kitz - REIN .:: and this could even be from a neighbour - in one case, it was caused by someone playing an electric guitar - but you've already expressed doubts about your neighbours from the inSSIDer shots

Is your phone plugged into a charger or just sat on the desk and have you had any problems since you've moved into the other room ?
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:12 PM   #18
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I actually forgot to move into the other room, so no I'm still in my bedroom and have had no issues. It comes and goes. I really think it has something to do with the dual band or the fact that we have an N wireless router (not sure what the correct phrasing of that is). In our old house we had a cheapo AT&T Gateway that was not very powerful.

Mmm usually my phone is just sitting beside my laptop or in my pocket. Once again, not strange at all. I wouldn't say it charging causes problems either because I usually plug in my charger when I go to bed, so my laptop is closed.
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Just rewinding a bit, but which plug-ins did Google and FireFox say needed to be installed ?
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