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Old 04-01-2016, 09:48 PM   #1
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OS - Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7 or Vista? Win7
ท x86 (32-bit) or x64 ? 64
ท What was the original installed OS on the system?
ท Is the OS an OEM version (came pre-installed on system) or full retail version (YOU purchased it from retailer)? retail
ท Approximate age of system (hardware) 1 year
ท Approximate age of OS installation (if you know) 1 year
ท Have you re-installed the OS? yes

ท CPU - intel core i5 3570k
ท Video Card - EVGA GTX 970
ท MotherBoard (if NOT a laptop) - ASRock Z75 Pro3
ท Power Supply - brand & wattage (if NOT a laptop) - Enermax 650

Laptop or Desktop? Desktop

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 330R Blackout Edition

Got the GTX 970 and had to upgrade to the 330R to fit it in. Twice now [i think both times, but i can't remember what i did the first time] i switched the fans from low to high and got a BSOD.

Thanks again TSF!
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:42 AM   #2
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Hi. . .

No idea how/why the fans would seemingly cause a BSOD. I've never heard of this before.

The failure bucket ID is interesting -
Code:
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_wininit.exe
IOERR = I/O Error - problem with hard drive

Run HDD diagnostics on both internal drives - SeaTools for DOS, LONG test - https://www.sysnative.com/forums/har...agnostics.html

If you have an SSD, be sure to go to SSD manufacturer's support site and check for firmware upgrade. VERY IMPORTANT as outdated firmware can cause a BSOD on its own.

Sorry, but I don't know what to tell you about the fans. I would suggest leaving them on factory default settings. There is no information in the dump files remotely relating to fans or power.

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Code:
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\032816-6957-01.dmp]
Built by: 7601.19160.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.160211-0600
Debug session time: Mon Mar 28 20:29:15.547 2016 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:06:47.780
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa802601db10, fffffa802601ddf0, fffff80003bcc780}
Probably caused by : wininit.exe
PROCESS_NAME:  wininit.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4_IOERR
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_wininit.exe
Bugcheck code 000000F4
Arguments 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`2601db10 fffffa80`2601ddf0 fffff800`03bcc780
BiosVersion = P2.00
BiosReleaseDate = 10/01/2013
SystemManufacturer = To Be Filled By O.E.M.
SystemProductName = To Be Filled By O.E.M.
MaxSpeed:     3400
CurrentSpeed: 3400
จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\040116-6380-01.dmp]
Built by: 7601.19160.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.160211-0600
Debug session time: Fri Apr  1 23:25:43.775 2016 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 3 days 23:10:53.008
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa800e247060, fffffa800e247340, fffff80003bd3780}
*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for win32k.sys
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for win32k.sys - 
Probably caused by : csrss.exe
PROCESS_NAME:  csrss.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4_IOERR
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_csrss.exe
Bugcheck code 000000F4
Arguments 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`0e247060 fffffa80`0e247340 fffff800`03bd3780
BiosVersion = P2.00
BiosReleaseDate = 10/01/2013
SystemManufacturer = To Be Filled By O.E.M.
SystemProductName = To Be Filled By O.E.M.
MaxSpeed:     3400
CurrentSpeed: 3400
จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\032816-6193-01.dmp]
Built by: 7601.19160.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.160211-0600
Debug session time: Tue Mar 29 00:14:30.457 2016 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:59:53.690
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8026076060, fffffa8026076340, fffff80003bdf780}
Probably caused by : wininit.exe
PROCESS_NAME:  wininit.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4_IOERR
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xF4_IOERR_IMAGE_wininit.exe
Bugcheck code 000000F4
Arguments 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`26076060 fffffa80`26076340 fffff800`03bdf780
BiosVersion = P2.00
BiosReleaseDate = 10/01/2013
SystemManufacturer = To Be Filled By O.E.M.
SystemProductName = To Be Filled By O.E.M.
MaxSpeed:     3400
CurrentSpeed: 3400
จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
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Thanks a lot. Will try your suggestions. Ya, I have no idea how a fan could do that, but ya, when I hit the switch to high... BSOD. Maybe I should have tried it a few more times.

Ya, main drive is an SSD, and the other is a HDD.

THanks.
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Which fans are you switching the Video card fans, or the CPU fans/chassis fans, and what program are you using to adjust them?
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Which fans are you switching the Video card fans, or the CPU fans/chassis fans, and what program are you using to adjust them?
Just the 2 case fans. It's a three position switch on the front of the case that controls 2 120mm fans. But, i've switched that and plugged them into the mobo, i'd rather have their speed be automatic rather than a switch.

Updated SSD firmware, and the BIOS. Gonna have to locate a CD to run SeaTools for DOS. We'll see what happens.
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Was the fan controller powered from one of the connectors off the same string as the hard drive?

If so you may be looking at a voltage issue effecting the hard drive.
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Just the 2 case fans. It's a three position switch on the front of the case that controls 2 120mm fans. But, i've switched that and plugged them into the mobo, i'd rather have their speed be automatic rather than a switch.
Does the system BSOD each & every time when you switch the fans to high . . . without fail?

Where were they plugged in to before you made the switch & plugged them into the mobo?

I am not a hardware expert; purchase only OEM laptops; have never built a system; have never really opened one up except to change a failing HDD and add RAM.

I'm curious now if my previous statement about the fans + BSODs was made in haste due to misunderstanding + inexperience on my part.

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Was the fan controller powered from one of the connectors off the same string as the hard drive?

If so you may be looking at a voltage issue effecting the hard drive.
Yes, I think it was. I bypassed that switch now and each fan is plugged directly into the mobo now.
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Does the system BSOD each & every time when you switch the fans to high . . . without fail?

Where were they plugged in to before you made the switch & plugged them into the mobo?

I am not a hardware expert; purchase only OEM laptops; have never built a system; have never really opened one up except to change a failing HDD and add RAM.

I'm curious now if my previous statement about the fans + BSODs was made in haste due to misunderstanding + inexperience on my part.

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So, now i've bypassed teh switch and each fan is now plugged directly into the motherboard. At the time, both BSODs were when I flipped teh switch to higher fan speed, but it actually did not BSOD every time I did the switch.

All good now I think. This can be closed. Thanks again!
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You're welcome.

Good luck to you.

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