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Old 06-15-2011, 01:33 PM   #1
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Now, I'm using windows 7, and I've been getting these constant crashes and bluescreens for a few months now, it happens at least once a day and sometimes up to 4 times a day.

I have tried everything. I've run memory tests. I've formatted and re-installed windows. I've stress tested my computer to the point where I didnt have any ram left or CPU usage ( turned on a ton of programs to see if it would burn itself out for some reason ) and so far, everything has come out clean, but it just keeps going.

Yesterday I decided to just take a look inside the computer so I took everything apart and cleaned it, put it back together and it continued to crash and be a ****.

Then I noticed that my GFX card was giving a bit of noise so I did this thing where you open it up and put some oil in the fan to make it run smoother, that worked but it has done nothing for my crashing issues.

These problems started happening after my little sister unplugged my computer by accident and after that it takes the computer a while to get past the loading screen for the motherboard ( the blue one that just says the type of motherboard I have ) and, ofcourse, the aforementioned bluescreens and DWM( Desktop window manager ) crashes.

Now, I'm begging you. I NEED HELP. I'm going nuts! If you would like the bluescreen information, then I'd be more than happy to send you the .dmp files that have been popping up =).

Thanks in advance!
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Now, I'm using windows 7, and I've been getting these constant crashes and bluescreens for a few months now, it happens at least once a day and sometimes up to 4 times a day.

I have tried everything. I've run memory tests. I've formatted and re-installed windows. I've stress tested my computer to the point where I didnt have any ram left or CPU usage ( turned on a ton of programs to see if it would burn itself out for some reason ) and so far, everything has come out clean, but it just keeps going.

Yesterday I decided to just take a look inside the computer so I took everything apart and cleaned it, put it back together and it continued to crash and be a ****.

Then I noticed that my GFX card was giving a bit of noise so I did this thing where you open it up and put some oil in the fan to make it run smoother, that worked but it has done nothing for my crashing issues.

These problems started happening after my little sister unplugged my computer by accident and after that it takes the computer a while to get past the loading screen for the motherboard ( the blue one that just says the type of motherboard I have ) and, ofcourse, the aforementioned bluescreens and DWM( Desktop window manager ) crashes.

Now, I'm begging you. I NEED HELP. I'm going nuts! If you would like the bluescreen information, then I'd be more than happy to send you the .dmp files that have been popping up =).

Thanks in advance!

- Ps. Sorry for re-posting, but I saw the sticky about this place afterwards.
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okay, so I read your stickies and did what they told me to do: Here's the zipped file with everything you need to know about my problems:


BSOD.zip
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okay, so I read your stickies and did what they told me to do: Here's the zipped file with everything you need to know about my problems:

BSOD.zip
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Sounds to me as if your PSU is on its last legs, maby your sister pulling the power out overvolted or stressed your PSU.

What is the make and model of your pc parts ?
If its premade what model number is it?
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I was thinking the same thing about the PSU, however, there's no real indication of that being the real culprit.

I made the computer bit by bit about 2and a half years ago

The specs are ;

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16 GHz 3.17 GHz
8.00GB RAM - Corsair DDR3
PSU ; 650W Corsair
GFX: Radeon 4850
Some Seagate HD
Motherboard : Asus P5Q SE

I'm using a 32 bit Windows 7 OS.


I'm writing most of this by memory, so if there's something missing, let me know.
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I will wait for other peoples input before i will say for sure that its your PSU, But it sounds very like it.

Also why do you have 8GB of ram and yet your using a 32-bit OS? dosent that mean your only using 3.5GB out of 8.0GB ? or have you patched it?
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I dont think throwing a new PSU is the way to go. but I have been known to be wrong. Is there a Digital Multimeter handy? something you can beg, borrow or steal? we can check the PS.

I know event viewer isnt very helpful usually... however, you know never. anything in Events viewer under Administration tools?

It may very well be the PSU.. Best 5 minute techique to know if its the powersupply - disconnect the Power supply cables from the motherboard (recommended all devices, but essentially the CPU 4-pin / 12-V Connectors) - stick a Paper Clip in the White / Green cables, put the Digital Multi-Meter on the Pins. Every wire from the PSU has a specificed rating.

If it is possible, do that --->

and reply back with the readings based upon color.
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Yeah, Jeubank, I'm afraid none of those things are available to me :P
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anyone?
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Hi -

What was Drive F: during Windows 7 installation on June 12? The current system reports show -
Code:
Drive    F:
Description    CD-ROM Disc
During W7 installation, it appears to be a 6 GB USB stick -
Code:
Event[1634]:
Log Name: Application
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Wininit
Date: 2011-06-12T10:59:19.000
Description: 
 
Checking file system on F:
The type of the file system is FAT32. 
 
One of your disks needs to be checked for consistency. You
may cancel the disk check, but it is strongly recommended
that you continue.
Windows will now check the disk.                         
Volume Serial Number is C4E0-9B0C
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
   5730948 KB total disk space.
   5730944 KB are available.
 
      4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
   1432737 total allocation units on disk.
   1432736 allocation units available on disk.  
Following the chkdsk entry, > 60 events like these recorded -
Code:
Event[1540]:
Log Name: Application
Source: .NET Runtime Optimization Service
Date: 2011-06-12T11:02:57.000
Description: 
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: BDATunePIA
 
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: AuditPolicyGPManagedStubs.Interop
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: ehiUPnP
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: Microsoft.MediaCenter.Shell
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: LoadMxf
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: MCESidebarCtrl
.NET Runtime Optimization Service (2.0.50727.4952) - Version or flavor did not match with repository: Microsoft.Security.ApplicationId.PolicyManagement.PolicyModel

DWM -
Code:
Event[1354]:
Log Name: Application
Source: Desktop Window Manager
Date: 2011-06-12T02:30:20.000
Description: 
The Desktop Window Manager did not start because an analysis of the 
 hardware and configuration indicated that it would perform poorly

- Windows 7 is on drive d:
- I see ATI, WOW, uTorrent on c:

What else is on the 1.5 TB HDD c:..?

The BSODs appear hardware related, possibly RAM, video, HDD, ... or other unknown h/w failure affecting RAM, video.


Run memtest86+ - https://www.techsupportforum.com/2863029-post5.html

Run HDD diags -
- https://www.carrona.org/hddiag.html
- https://www.techsupportforum.com/2828431-post7.html
- Drive diagnostic utilities compendium - TechSpot OpenBoards

I merged your thread from Windows 7/ Vista forum.


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BSOD SUMMARY
Code:
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\061511-16863-01.dmp]
Built by: 7600.16792.x86fre.win7_gdr.110408-1633
Debug session time: Wed Jun 15 11:48:24.459 2011 (GMT-4)
System Uptime: 0 days 11:01:27.895
Probably caused by : dxgmms1.sys ( dxgmms1!VidSchiUpdateContextRunningTimeAtISR+8c )
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x7E
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  0x7E_BAD_IP_dxgmms1!VidSchiUpdateContextRunningTimeAtISR+8c
Bugcheck code 1000007E
Arguments c000001d 91165b74 96b02adc 96b026c0
BiosVersion = 0803   
BiosReleaseDate = 10/08/2008
SystemManufacturer = System manufacturer
SystemProductName = P5Q SE
MaxSpeed:     3160
CurrentSpeed: 3163
จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\061411-20545-01.dmp]
Built by: 7600.16792.x86fre.win7_gdr.110408-1633
Debug session time: Wed Jun 15 00:36:59.176 2011 (GMT-4)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:02:25.612
Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiReplenishPageSlist+69 )
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xA
PROCESS_NAME:  svchost.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  0xA_nt!MiReplenishPageSlist+69
Bugcheck code 0000000A
Arguments 83dfffec 00000002 00000001 82ca02a1
BiosVersion = 0803   
BiosReleaseDate = 10/08/2008
SystemManufacturer = System manufacturer
SystemProductName = P5Q SE
MaxSpeed:     3160
CurrentSpeed: 3163
จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\061411-17550-01.dmp]
Built by: 7600.16792.x86fre.win7_gdr.110408-1633
Debug session time: Tue Jun 14 12:16:41.387 2011 (GMT-4)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:13:17.823
Probably caused by : hardware ( nt!KeFlushProcessWriteBuffers+12 )
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x8E
PROCESS_NAME:  svchost.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  IP_MISALIGNED
Bugcheck code 1000008E
Arguments c0000005 82cd516d 96d3f7f9 00000000
BiosVersion = 0803   
BiosReleaseDate = 10/08/2008
SystemManufacturer = System manufacturer
SystemProductName = P5Q SE
MaxSpeed:     3160
CurrentSpeed: 3163
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Loading Dump File [C:\Users\PalmDesert\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\061211-21200-01.dmp]
Built by: 7600.16792.x86fre.win7_gdr.110408-1633
Debug session time: Sun Jun 12 19:37:21.257 2011 (GMT-4)
System Uptime: 0 days 10:57:39.693
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x50
PROCESS_NAME:  wmplayer.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  0x50_win32k!FindTimer+2c
Bugcheck code 00000050
Arguments ffffffd8 00000000 9987c6e1 00000000
BiosVersion = 0803   
BiosReleaseDate = 10/08/2008
SystemManufacturer = System manufacturer
SystemProductName = P5Q SE
MaxSpeed:     3160
CurrentSpeed: 3163
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go into the bios and post the voltages and temps. When you ran memtest was it on one stick for several passes and then did you swap ram sticks? if you didn't you need to.
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Jeff - on my C drive there's WoW - a movie called the adjustment bureau - my Video card drivers and something called " 11-5_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_ocl "

then ofc. Utorrent, nothing else is on it.

I'll get on doing the mem and HDD tests, how long should I run a memtest for each stick btw?
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Run memtest for several passes on each stick,
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Okay, so I just ran some ' short ' memtests on my ram, 1 stick at a time for about an hour each.

Nothing seemed to be wrong.

Right now I'm testing out my HD using " HD Tune " which was linked to me from one of your sites.

Is there any way for me to run tests on my GFX card? Because I have this feeling that might be the culprit.
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I will ask again please post your temperatures and voltages from the BIOS specifically the 3.3v, 12v and 5v readings.
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Greenbrucelee, any chance you could be more specific ? I got now clue how to find those things, I go into bios and then what? :L sorry for being such a scrub.
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Alright, I tried my best, and here's what I could come up with :

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CPU Temp ; 42ฐC/107.5ฐF
MB Temp ; 58ฐC/136จF

Cpu Voltage : 1.208V
3.3V Voltage : 3.344V
5V Voltage : 5.040V
12V Voltage : 12.040 "

That's what I got from that department!

I checked out something called " APM Config " and there it said this

" Restore on AC Power Loss : [Power Off] "
and the rest in that option was ' disabled '

I don't know if that matters or not but I felt I should write it down anyway.

PS. I've scanned both of my HD's now, and nothing wrong seems to be popping up.
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Looks like reading from the bios... which is fine, except.. was the computer just powered off, and then turned on later and jumped into the bios? if that is so, no real stress or load on the CPU or GPU would be seen...

if this was after using the computer for some time, these temps are just fine.

Wait, MB temp? Motherboard temp. why is it so much hotter? we have a Integrated Graphics Processor? perhaps that could be the meaning. If that is true... We may have a culprit.. The IGP chip could be running hot (especially if this was an initial boot up and not a system running for some time prior to the temp readings)

If it is the IGP... and you have a dedicated card to throw in there - we can disable the IGP from the bios (99 percent of the time)
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Jeubank, I'm a retard so you gotta dumb down the lingo a little bit.

So, the computer WAS on before I turned on the Bios and it has been running for about 2 days straight so these are probably the temperatures when it's idling, but still on.

However, if you are right, then I'd like to get to the bottom of this IGP issue. I have no clue what you mean by " integrated graphics processor ".

-- Okay, just googled it ( like a boss ) and found out that it refers to the act of putting a graphics card into a motherboard, however, my GFX card is completely separate from the MB. It's a big red box with a fan on it, and I can tell you the temperature of the GFX card if you also want that.

---- Currently the graphics card is holding it's temperature at 62ฐC and it never runs hotter than 75ฐ unless i'm stress testing it, in which case I've seen it go up to 101ฐ
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