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Old 03-16-2012, 03:33 PM   #1
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Hi,

While having a trawl through my system this morning (raining, nothing else appealing to do) I discovered the situation depicted in the attached snip. I assume that this means that all the items listed in Start Menu/Programs will start when I start my system? Could explain why it's best to enter the password then go make breakfast.

If I delete the items in Programs will this speed the start process, please?

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Hi -

Trend Micro would be at the top of my list.

Although no BSODs reported, please run the jcgriff2 app to provide additional system info - Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions - Windows 7 & Vista

Run Speccy - Download Speccy 1.16.317 - FileHippo.com
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Boot into Safemode w/ Networking - tap the F8 key repeatedly. Any difference in performance?

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https://speccy.piriform.com/results/W...4JKkUCKXXeFemk

Hi John,

Thanks for getting back so quickly.

Here is the Speccy link. No, definitely no BSOD, once I get past the startup it runs well. I'll get back to you with the results of your test.

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PS: There is a mass of stuff in the Task Scheduler, I was thinking that this is the other most likely cause. I just don't know how to tell which tasks to stop.
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Your hardware config looks fine per Speccy; temps OK.

I suspect start-up apps may yield a clue.

Be sure to time the safemode boot - to desktop.
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Will do, although it gets to the desktop quite quickly, what bugs me is that once the Desktop displays it then takes several minutes until the system will respond to keyboard/mouse inputs. Once past that 'hump' everything is fine.

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That could be start-up apps or my current target - Trend Micro.
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I suspect the startup apps for sure. Would deleting things from the list in my first post help? I'm interested about your comments about Trend Micro. I've found that this latest version causes much less disruption than previous versions. I was always having to wait while it finished scanning in the background or whatever, but this version seems to be much more seamless.

Do you still want the BSOD tests run?

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I have attached the .zip file, but the other tool left me with a .arn file which I can't upload.

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Got these ones ok now.

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Sorry for delay... my oldest turns 22 today; 3 more behind her - 10,13,17.

I'm not seeing much in start-up apps.

What were the results in Safemode?
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I understand, no problems. In fact I've been out and about myself, my daughter is getting married next February 1st and there is a lot of 'wedding stuff' to plough through. In addition, my eldest son is playing in the season Grand Final for his Cricket club so between the 2 I've been busy and haven't done the Safe Mode start yet. I'll do it first thing tomorrow when I boot it up.
Thanks for working with me again.

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Good morning John,

Hope the birthday went well for you all.

I have tried starting in Safe Mode this morning and found that from input of password it takes less than a minute to get ready (albeit Windows Live Mail would not work, see attached) whereas with normal start it was about 3 minutes till I could interact with WLM, and a further 5 minutes before all the HDD activity settled down.

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Hi Rob. . .

Remove Trend Micro - you can always reinstall it if you wish.

Use removal tool - Uninstallers (removal tools) for common antivirus software - ESET Knowledgebase

Reboot upon completion. Install Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)

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Thanks John,

I'll do that and get back to you later.

What is it about Trend that you suspect?

Rob.

PS: There is also a thing from Trend called Safe Sync (I don't use it). Should that go too?
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Hi Rob. . .

It is an Internet Security Suite - like Norton, McAfee, KIS, etc... and they tend to utilize a lot of system resources especially at startup. I have seen this same issue in Vista and Windows 7 for >4 years.

Trend Micro does not load in Safemode.

I run Windows Firewall + MSE on most systems here.

The TM removal goes quick, so you'll know within ~15 minutes if it is the cause or not.

Be sure to reboot after removal.

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Just saw edit on Safe Synch - yes, ditch it too.
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OK, I'll get back later, thanks. Time for our usual Sunday morning walk for coffee .

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But it's only Saturday 17.45 hours... you're a little early. . . !

GMT-5 here, of course.

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LOL. 0845 here and looks like it may rain later so better get on it. I'm usually late, ask my wife.
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Managed to sneek it in while my wife finished her breakfast. Without Trend Micro Titanium Maximum Security 2012 and Safe Sync installed it still takes a good 3 minutes from Password to being able to interact with WLM. Perhaps this is normal, am I just being impatient?

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