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Old 01-14-2013, 04:30 PM   #1
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Hi,

I am trying to copy one of the restore points files in the C:/System volume information folder to a backup drive of mine so I permanently have it, but I dont have permission to copy it.

I cant change the owner to myself, share it, edit the read writes , or anything using the GUI becasue I 'dont have permisions to view or edit the permissions'.

At the command line I have tried the utility 'take ownership'. I have tried takeown /F 'filepath' from comand line launched as admin.
Result: 'access denied'.

I have tried ICACLS <filename> /grant administrators:F
Result: access denied.

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Oh - Im an Administrator and UAC is turned off.

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Sign in as Admin. Show all Folders etc. (you know the drill)
When you right click the folder (System Volume Information folder)>Properties>From Config Window "Security">Continue>Add the Users Name (not yours)>If you can't figure out from the silly file names, just choose the date and you should be able to copy to an external medium.
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Saving restore points by any such method isn't really practical. If the restore succeeded (which is doubtful) it would likely leave your system in a worse state than before. System Restore can be quite useful but is also limited. The further back in time you go the less likely it is to succeed and the more likely to cause problems. It works best when used immediately following a problem. I have never used any but the most recent restore point.

If you wish to have the ability to restore your system to a known good state a better method would be to create an image backup.
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Sign in as Admin. Show all Folders etc. (you know the drill)
When you right click the folder (System Volume Information folder)>Properties>From Config Window "Security">Continue>Add the Users Name (not yours)>If you can't figure out from the silly file names, just choose the date and you should be able to copy to an external medium.
Thanks for the suggestions.

I am always admin as my only account is admin. I already have all folders set to show etc.

When you say 'not yours' Im not sure what you mean. Anyway I tried adding 'everyone' , and the other accounts which you can see in caption. Each time it set the follders permissions but failed to change permissions for the restore filess (see caption 2).

Viewing the security tab then gives caption 3.

Right clicking on the files and looking at owner gives caption 4, attempting to change owner obviously gives access denied message, and now Ive deleted these added users so Im left with caption 7.

By the way Im Dale, and Im always logged on with that account.


Could it be becasue the files are in use, locked, something like that?
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Saving restore points by any such method isn't really practical. If the restore succeeded (which is doubtful) it would likely leave your system in a worse state than before. System Restore can be quite useful but is also limited. The further back in time you go the less likely it is to succeed and the more likely to cause problems. It works best when used immediately following a problem. I have never used any but the most recent restore point.

If you wish to have the ability to restore your system to a known good state a better method would be to create an image backup.
Thanks for the reply.

Even if backup odoesnt work I want to know how to do this. (Security clueless users notwithstanding) I dont think its too much to ask that Windows allows me to manage the files on my own PC.
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In Advanced Security, choose only the Admin account as the owner.
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In Advanced Security, choose only the Admin account as the owner.
Do you mean for the folder or the file?
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After you hit Advanced in Security where you show two. Change the owner. Right now there is none.
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After you hit Advanced in Security where you show two. Change the owner. Right now there is none.
If you mean Properties > Security > Advanced > for the folder (caption 10 below), I cannot change the owner.

If you mean the same but for the restore file (caption 12 below) I cannot change the owner for that either.
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What does Edit show you? Can you change the name there? If nothing works in this area, you might have to make sure you have full admin rights in the Command Prompt by typing net user administrator /active:yes
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What does Edit show you? Can you change the name there? If nothing works in this area, you might have to make sure you have full admin rights in the Command Prompt by typing net user administrator /active:yes
Just ran the command. Then looked in 'edit' as instructed (caption 20) Caption 21 is what happens when I try to change owner to either Admin or Dale from that edit dialogue. Same result for both the folder and restore file within it.
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Although the problem wasn't solved in the thread I'm posting, the suggestions might work for you. If we hit an impasse, I'll ask staff for further assistance.
https://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...on-522615.html
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I am folowing steps ion that thread. SSytem restore is on still. Could that be locking the file?
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The suggestion was to turn it off.
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ran C:\Users\Dale>attrib -h -s "c:\system volume information" /s /d successfully. still not working.

That thread is only any good up to the point of trying with the hidden admin accoutn, which Ive done, becasue from there on they are trrying to delet ethe files, not manage them.

I will try in safe mode again. If it doesnt work, unless htere are any suiggestions here Ill probably use a linux to move it. thats worked for me in the past with file permission problems.
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The suggestion was to turn it off.
If I do that then restore points are deleted ( according to system restore dialogue)
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If you have Linux already on your Windows computer then finding the file and copying it to an external drive should be easy. The only other thought I had (and it's a reach) was the name of the original user when installing Windows. Even if it was you it might have been entered slightly differently. You can check on that. ¡Buena suerte
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If you have Linux already on your Windows computer then finding the file and copying it to an external drive should be easy. The only other thought I had (and it's a reach) was the name of the original user when installing Windows. Even if it was you it might have been entered slightly differently. You can check on that. ¡Buena suerte
I will have to install it. Also I have XP on another disk which I can boot from and try.

I havent knowingly changed my user name since installing.
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Hi-

Permissions are a funny thing in windows 7...

The only way to do it from within windows *might* be the hidden administrator account.

But first we must enable it.

Go to the start menu and type: "cmd" | press Ctrl+shift+enter

At the command/DOS prompt, type in:

net user administrator /active:yes

Note the spacing (or just copy/paste it)

Logout from your account and login the administrator account. try copying the folder now.

When you are done, you should disable the account again with:

net user administrator /active:no

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