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Old 08-07-2011, 09:05 AM   #1
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I think this might be a enlightening topic of opinion.
Who makes the best motors? And why?
Is it reliability, total hp output, torque, sound, ease to mod, aftermarket support, fun behind the wheel? Only motors or cars you have experience with, I don't care what a friend or magazine says.
This is purely opinion but says a lot about who likes what.
You expect me to say BMW but I say the porsche 928 v-8s are my fav. Either sohc or dohc. They have tons of torque but pull to redline smooth and strong. You can mod them easily like any ol v-8. They rumble like a chevy 350 too. The chevy LS1 may be my #2. They have done a great job with an old design.
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Who here can afford a Porche V-8 ?

Also they are engines, not motors

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Eh huh, engines then. Obviously you have not seen the prices of 928s these days. 1500 for running models. Treat it like any $1500 v8 powered car and it's a fun toy. And the motor vs engine thing... How about powertrains then. Who said cars are all powered by gas these days
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Best for reliability? The Japanese, in my opinion.
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The LSx engines are not an old design. They are completely different from the old small block Chevy engine. Unless you mean it's old because the first ones came out in '97. Or, because they have an in block cam.
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Yeah I meant old as in pushrods, great little aluminum motor though. They have come a long way from the 50s. I thought the lt1 was good in the 90s, but the ls motors are so much better all around. Have yet to drive a z06 7.0 or zr1 but 5.7l z06 is impressive. We have seen a few euro cars come by the shop with ls based motors and the run hard. Ls1 Porsche 944 kits make a great car so much better
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And those stick shift sho taurus's are such an odd combo that is so much fun. In highscool a buddy's dad had one and unless you have driven one you just don't understand. It is one of the best revving motors I have seen. Rough on clutchs. Have you seen jay lens shogun?
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The overhead cam is not new technology either. It goes back to at least 1898. Sunbeam had them in cars in 1912. Lots of WWI aircraft engines were overhead cam. Here's a link to some of the history of the automobile engine:

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Depends on perspective. 12.7L Series 60 Detroit gets my vote, average 1.2 million before a tear down, pre EGR engines 7.5 MPG @ 370Hp.
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Depends on perspective. 12.7L Series 60 Detroit gets my vote, average 1.2 million before a tear down, pre EGR engines 7.5 MPG @ 370Hp.
Don't know much about semi motors, @370 hp , how much torque are they pushing? Around 1000? I know those bully dog modded pick up motors push a lot. Impressive miles between overhauls. Keep America supplied truckers
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About 1650 @ 1400 RPM on the older ones
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Do what?? 1650 ft lbs?? Too bad they don't rev past 3k. Never got used diesels.....prefered the 8k rpm of a smallblock before valve float. But I wasn't hauling freight.....but did haul the mail!!
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You don't see many small blocks spin that fast. Ford maybe because of the shorter stroke. Your ride?
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57 Chevy.....283ci 4 spd. Had a 64 Impalla SS with 327ci that was no match for the 57. Yeah....I over-revved a few times..... Lost traction on wet pavement and lost every damper spring in the clutch disc when I caught 2nd gear....that was a major over-rev!! Hit 2nd just fine but the tires broke loose.....heard something break and coasted to the side of the road but still could move. Put it on the rack and pulled the tranny.....clutch facing was intact but all damper springs were gone. Inspection plate was removed prior to the incidence and all "evidence" was blown out the bottom.....good thing or I may have had worse damage.

Tranny was a T10....engine was a basic 283. Block was decked and running peaked heads....exhaust was 270hp FI with cross-over. Carb was 715 DI Holley that was pinned. A 289 never stood a chance.......never bowed down to a Ford but I rely on them today......but not for racing.
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Sounds nice. Can't say I have ever seen one with a four speed like that. Maybe Barrett Jackson on speed. At car shows you only see automatics, very cool.
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8K? The top on these is 1875 RPM
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8K was a mistake.....lost traction, missed a shift, or just plain pedaled too hard.....oops. Lucky I didn't have rods coming out the side of the block or through the pan......typical young kid back in the late 60's.

The Chezzie was a plain old 210 that started out as a powerglide. I remember starting the change in Feb.....outside, on the ground in the snow, with cold tranny fluid running down my arms. Luckily I had a friend who could weld the ball (clutch pivot) on the frame for me. Saved up my pennies (actually I was working a summer job as an apprentice carpenter.....cleared $100.01 a week....still remember) and bought a used T10 from a friend of a friend and a Hurst from Jegs. Next was a 715 Dual Inlet Holley from Jegs for $45....brand new and in the box.

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I think the best engine ever made was a tossup between the 4.3 GM and the Chrysler 225 CI.
I've had cars and trucks with both in them the 4.3 was in my 89 s-10 Blazer and that rig was a powerhouse, the 225 I had in an old 80 La Baron that my exwife ran for 6 months with no oil drain plug while I was at sea, that engine ran fine until 1989 when I was wiped in a parking lot.
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