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Old 07-12-2009, 09:53 AM   #1
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Hey Guys.

First off you may be thinking why my desired specs change so often, well my ability to pay for upgrades can change without warning. But now I can happily say my next upgrade is DEFINITELY coming this 25th of December :D Now the question that's been in my mind for a while, I have been Googling for hours on end and cannot find a single comparison between the Q8400 and the E8400/E8500. The thing is as time goes on Quad-Core gaming will become more common with such titles as Crysis 2. Currently the main "Quad-Threaded" game around is probably GTA IV. Now my question is; In GTA IV is the extra 2 cores beneficial when faced with the lower Core frequencies when compared to the E8400? basically which CPU would perform better in GTA IV, the E8400 or the Q8400?

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As of now, and probably for some time, there are no games that can make use of 4 Cores. For a gaming PC, the E8500 offers the most bang for the buck.



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Grand Theft Auto 4 is optimized for 3-4 cores and recommend a Quad Core at 2.4GHZ. Far Cry 2 will operate on all 4 cores but is not optimised to do so. Crysis 2 and the CryEngine 3 it is said will be optimised for 4 threads (Or so Crytek say I'm not sure weather what they say is true though). I got the information for GTA from Rockstar and the info for Far Cry 2 is from seeing it run on a friends PC, could have been something else stressing the other 2 cores but all 4 cores were at 60%+
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I also do allot of video and MP3 transcoding/converting but I do mostly Game.
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The Quad Core will prove useful for the video work and any other heavy multi-tasking but a Dual Core is best for gaming.



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GTA 4 as some others do support Quad cores they off load about 10% from the 1st 2 cores to the second 2 since the first 2 are not fully used it just looks good when advertising but unfortunately does nothing to help performance as the load on the other cores is still waiting for the instruction set to be run on the primary.

Video encoding however does benefit because each core can be programed to process different sets of video frames without having to wait for sequential instructions form another core, however as of now only high end software takes advantage of it, Adobe Audition CS4 comes to mind, and The latest version of Sony Vegas to a lessor degree.
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Well then the main question comes into play, is the drop in frequency worth the extra 2 cores? keeping in mind the expense of the upgrade whether its quad core OR dual core and I cant spend that kind of money often. So would the quad core have, to a certain extent, slightly more futureproofness?
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For gaming the clock speed is better for Video/image manipulation a Quad is better, Future proof is a myth in 4-5 years everything out now will be old still run well, but not handle the latest and greatest software. A good compromise is the Q9550 At $220 US> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=Q9550&x=0&y=0

At 2.83Ghz and 12Mb of cache it will easily clock to 3.1Ghz on stock cooling and should then outperform the E8400/E8500.
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How much do you suspect that CPU to go down in price by Christmas? In the UK the Q9550 is 180 and I cant really go past 120.
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I expect by then it will not be in production the Core i5 will have replaced it.
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Will the Core i5 be in the same price range as the LGA775 package? if not Intel can take the i5 and shove it up there nose
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Close, but one thing for sure when released all the components will be higher it will be on a new socket LGA 1156> https://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.p...=25883&catid=2
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and new sokcet= lots of motherboard manufacturers charging extortionate fees. Which I'm afraid will completely cancel all hope of my upgrade. looks like AMD is the future for me :/
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The P45 and E8500 will still be around for awhile yet and out perform what AMD has to offer.
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so, will the C2D's be around longer than the C2Q's then? or are those particular models just quite new and will take longer to be discontinued?
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The i5 quads will replace the C2Q's, there is no planed replacement for the C2D, I see about another year then it will be what they call the Pentium Dual Core like the current E5200, E5400, E6300 chips for the budget systems the i5 for the mid range and the i7 for the hi performance machines.
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The i5 CPU's and the Mobo's that accept them will naturally be very high priced as it is "new" technology and someone has to pay for it. That would be the consumer who has to have the latest and greatest.
The e*%)) is still the best bang for buck gaming CPU. I look for them to be around for quite some time. The i7 is still overpriced and still has some issues as does DDR3RAM.



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Thank you very much people you'v been a great help. Come Christmas, depending on prices, I *Should* be purchasing either an E8400 or an E8500 along with an Asus P5Q "vanilla" motherboard. I am tempted toward the E8400 as I would have more money for an aftermarket Cooler like A CoolerMaster V8 or a TunicTower. but then again Christmas is a long time away and things can change and the E8500 could be cheep enough to still be able to afford a decent aftermarket cooler. You never know Intel could get there act together and have a well priced new chip around by then with equally well priced chipsets and motherboards; I doubt it but you never know ;D. Once again thank you! You have been great! ;D
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