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Old 01-23-2008, 03:39 PM   #1
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So, I got me another motherboard ,ECS 945GCT-M, after my other motherboard got a short circuit, but know I am having a problem, the BIOS is giving me a to high temperature, it tells me the procesor is on 85 C, and the fan is 3,500 RPM.
I already left it with the case open, it gets a bit cooler but nearly the same. Here is the image of speed fan.

The computer specialist told me that it is normal in this way, he said the BIOS wasnt right, because he touched the procesor when it was at 80 c and he said it was way to cool for that temperature.

Is it normal this way, need help

My specs:
Mother/B ECS 945GCT-M
Proc. Intel PIV 3.0 BOX 775P
DIMM 1.0GB DDRII-667
160 GB 7200RPM SATA
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How could he touch the CPU ???? The PC would not boot if the cooler wasnt on top. My guess is he's lying.

thats way to hot. Get some Arctic silver 5 and reapply the thermal paste.

https://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm


** Double check your Voltages in the BIOS and post the results aswell **.

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I saw myself how he did it, he simply put his finger under the heatsink, and toushed the cpu, just after shutting down.
My Bios show:
CPU VCore 1.3
VDIMM 1.9
In the meantime I have being installing some things, and the speedfan temperature has raised from temp3: 64c, to temp3: 74c.
Couldnt the temperature be wrong? Or does the BIOS always show the absolute?
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:27 PM   #4
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Are you getting any other symptoms, like shutdowns???? Those sensors are quite often not accurate, so your temps might (don't know that) be just fine.

Just for kicks, try SensorviewPro and see what it says about those temps. This will just give us a different picture of your situation.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:09 PM   #5
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It seems pretty similar to me like the one of speedfan,


I havent gotten any shuttdowns until know, but the motherboard is new, and I formated my h/d, so I am not using much memory at the moment, and it seems to slow down when I copy a big file or have a few pages open.

Another thing is that just after turning on my computer in the morning after having cooled down the whole night, and I enter in BIOS, right away it shows me the procesor is on 60c already, just after a few seconds on.
From there it starts rising upto 82c after about a minute, is this normal?
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If you built it yourself and forgot the TP that will make a big difference i know it was posted before but try it. But there could be a prom with the MOBO or CPU so if u got any extras u should try some swapping around. or buy a whole bunch of chassis fans!!
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Yes, it can heat up that quickly if the thermal paste is not on correctly or you used something that is not the best to use. Use HawMan's Artic Silver link to reapply thermal paste and follow the instructions carefully. Might also tell us what case fans you have, where they are located, and which direction they are blowing.

The CPU heats up very fast and also cools down very fast when not on. I just don't feel (forgive the pun) the hand test is very reliable to know how hot it is when the CPU is off.
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back to the reply when u said u watched him stick his hand under the heatsink , his finger is ether less than a mm thick(which im HIGHLY doubting!) or ur CPU fan is not correctly installed. or... The Guy is BS-ing u.
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I guess he didnt touch the cpu itself, but the metal part attached to the heatsink.
Whatever, the problem is that as I live in the Dom.Rep., I cant find that arctic silver in local stores, I have phoned up more then 10 computer shops and none sell it.
Anyway, I brought it to be checked by the same guy and told him to try to put some of the TP, and he said he would do it for me, but he knows thats not the cause....., and he would check it carefuly during the day...
Lets see what happens...
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every time the heatsink is disturbed the paste has to be cleaned off and new paste applied
get what paste you can the a/s instructions on the application of the paste still applies
https://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm
reasons for the cpu temps to be high
the fans failed
the fan and heatsink are clogged with dust
the heatsink is not seated properly
the paste needs renewing



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Hey, thanks for the help guys/girls.., I will inform you of the results,
thanks again
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So, the problem was solved, I have now an average of 60c in the BIOS, and a revolution of about 2,000 RPM.

The guy told me that the heating was caused by the fan. He said that the fan wasn't turning at the revolution indicated in the BIOS, but actually at a much slower rate.
For example: in the BIOS I had a 3,500, but actually it only turned at a 800RPM. He said he measured the revolution with a special laser. Anyway he sold me a new cpu fan, and know it seems to work properly.

It seems that as my old motherboard got a short circuit, it affected the other parts of the computer as well, so affecting the fan's revolution...
Does it makes sense? Is something like this probable of occurring?
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60c is still to hot,was the paste cleaned off and reapplied when fitting the fan



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So, the problem was solved, I have now an average of 60c in the BIOS, and a revolution of about 2,000 RPM.

The guy told me that the heating was caused by the fan. He said that the fan wasn't turning at the revolution indicated in the BIOS, but actually at a much slower rate.
I am with dai on this one, this issue is not solved and if your repair guy thinks it is solved with those temps, you might be better to find another repair facility. Those temps just are not acceptable. This rig should be somewhere in the high 30c for at-rest temps and not over 60c when under the most stress (like playing an intense game).

If he didn't clean and put new thermal paste on there when he took it apart, you need to do that as suggested by dai.
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I see, ... around 30c you say.
I asked him if he put the thermal paste, and he told me he did, but I didn't see how he did it, he also told me that that wasn't the cause for the heating, he said that thermal paste is only applied once, at the beginning.
How do I check to see if its there or if it was done correctly?
Is this enough
https://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm
or are they other stuff I got to check out.
How I mentioned earlier, I cant find that stuff anywere(thermal paste), only in computer workshops, so I depend on them.
However I am surprised, he told me that 60c was a normal temperature for this cpu, and you say it is 30c. I have never even reached to 40c, only 50c at the very beginning and after a minute it stays on 60c.

I am going to try to check out the model of the fan, and how the paste was applied.
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I see, ... around 30c you say.

It could be between 32c and 44c or close to that at-rest and be fine. The under-stress could be as high (the standard I use in my shop) 63c while under stress. I don't let any go out of my shop if they aren't in that general range. Hope I didn't confuse you earlier with that statement.

I asked him if he put the thermal paste, and he told me he did, but I didn't see how he did it, he also told me that that wasn't the cause for the heating, he said that thermal paste is only applied once, at the beginning.

You do apply it only once, she he is correct about that unless you take it apart. Once you take it apart and break that seal between the heatsink and the CPU, and at that time, you have to clean and redo it.

How do I check to see if its there or if it was done correctly?
Is this enough
https://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

Those instructions are simply as good as you can get. Follow that and you won't have any problems with putting it on, but read it carefully so you won't miss anything.

or are they other stuff I got to check out.
How I mentioned earlier, I cant find that stuff anywere(thermal paste), only in computer workshops, so I depend on them.

You might have to hold and order some from a mail order supplier.

However I am surprised, he told me that 60c was a normal temperature for this cpu, and you say it is 30c. I have never even reached to 40c, only 50c at the very beginning and after a minute it stays on 60c.

Quite frankly, he doesn't know what he is talking about. 60c is not a normal temperature for that CPU while at-rest or starting up and at idle.

I am going to try to check out the model of the fan, and how the paste was applied.

Quite honestly, is there a chance you can buy some thermal paste off this guy and do it yourself? That might be a good idea on how to get some thermal paste.

This might also be a good time to tell us what fans you have in that case, where they are located and which direction they are blowing. Fans play a big role in case cooling
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SensorviewPro showing that the cpu fan not spinning?
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i dont know if this has been already said but i had the same problem with my computer when i first started it and what i did was basically take out the heatsink and put it back on and make sure that it is tight and snugg that it doesnt figgit or move.
See if that helps
probably the heatsink isnt close enough to the CPU
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Valid point momomo26. That can also be a troubleshooting strategy and I recommend that.

Just make sure if you take it off, you must clean and reapply the thermal paste when you put it back together.
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Sorry for the late reply,
so, I have got only one fan, and that is the cpu fan, I dont have any video card right now, and with the power supply unit it makes two fans in the computer.
My case is an ATX 747F-SB-K4 Omega case, and it doesn't have any fans applied as well.

The cpu's fan is blowing toward the cpu(heatsink), and the model I got right now is,
Intel D95263-001
FC731112 1A0125100
DC 12V 0.14A

The fan which was replaced was thus:
Intel DC4223-001
N 6322D Q1
F09A-12B3S1 03AC1H2
DC 12V 0.42A

The newer fan has smaller blades, which seem to be a newer technology.

About the thermal paste, I phoned up again different workshops, and I found this:
NTE303
https://www.nteinc.com/specs/300to399/pdf/nte303.pdf
It seems that this is the only thing everyone uses around here, should I use this, is it the same as arctic silver, if it is ok, can I follow the same guide as above on how to apply it?
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