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Old 01-05-2020, 01:28 AM   #1
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I will buy a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU.
I've read many people saying the stock cooler is not good. I want to get an air cooler.
The place I will buy the CPU from has only the following cooler brands:
Alpenfohn, Asus, Corsair, Fazn, NZXT

Has anybody tried one of those brands on a Ryzen 5 3600 for AIR cooling?
If yes, what was the exact model and what were the results (temperatures, noise)?

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Add Arctic to the brands I mentioned.
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Are you planing overclocking?

For stock clocks or mild over clocks the Wraith Stealth Cooler it comes with works ok.

If you want to move up the Arctic Freezer 12 is a decent cooler but louder and the extra costs puts you better then half way to the cost of the 3600x with the better stock cooler.

Also be aware if you are looking for PCIe 4.0 support you'll need a X5xx chipset motherboard.
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Thanks for your ideas.

No oc, no games. But I know I want a better cooler based on what I've read. I just need information from somebody who has experience with Ryzen 5 3600 + air cooling with Alpenfohn or Arctic.

3600x has a better cooler but is also more hot, right (95W vs 65W)?

I don't think I need PCIe 4.0, so I am thinking Gigabyte B450 Aorus M.
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It is capable of running a higher wattage(more heat) if you use it maxed out or Overclock it. Those numbers are maximums in normal use it draws the same power.
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It is capable of running a higher wattage(more heat) if you use it maxed out or Overclock it. Those numbers are maximums in normal use it draws the same power.
Thanks for the info. I still want a better cooler than the one on 3600x. See:
I tested my 3600x with a cheap $24 Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 tower cooler and it completely outperformed the stock cooler by a mile. Dropped my temps 20c testing with prime95 blended test.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic...mp-and-gaming/
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I agree with @Wrench97, if you're not gaming and don't have intensive loads or not going to OC, it's not going to matter, since you will never have a sustained load, for normal usage, the stock cooler is more than sufficient.

If you monitor the core clock and if the freq does not exceed the base frequency (you don't even hit the Boost clock freq) then your workload is very minimal and a 3rd party cooler might be overkill, because case air flow matters as well.
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I agree with @Wrench97, if you're not gaming and don't have intensive loads or not going to OC, it's not going to matter, since you will never have a sustained load, for normal usage, the stock cooler is more than sufficient.

If you monitor the core clock and if the freq does not exceed the base frequency (you don't even hit the Boost clock freq) then your workload is very minimal and a 3rd party cooler might be overkill, because case air flow matters as well.
My usage is not normal. I will not go into details. And the summer it can be very hot. I just want a better cooler.

New data: Unfortunately, the place I will buy the parts from cannot bring Arctic coolers and I will have to get a cooler elsewhere. So, I am not restricted to specific brands.

Has anybody tried R5 3600 with an air cooler they can suggest?
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Limiting the info you provide limits the response you might recieve, since you tried something which you consider to have outperformed the stock cooler why not consider using it.
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Limiting the info you provide limits the response you might recieve, since you tried something which you consider to have outperformed the stock cooler why not consider using it.
I neved said I tried something. I will buy a new mobo+cpu and I need info from someone who has worked with an air cooler on R5 3600.
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Thanks for the info. I still want a better cooler than the one on 3600x. See:
I tested my 3600x with a cheap $24 Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 tower cooler and it completely outperformed the stock cooler by a mile. Dropped my temps 20c testing with prime95 blended test.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic...mp-and-gaming/
You posted the above.
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You posted the above.
Oh, ok. The sentence starting with "I tested my 3600x" is referring to the link below. Somebody else wrote that. Before that sentence, I wrote: "See:".
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I feel a bit like a broken record but actually I think the stock cooler is quite impressive, certainly for normal usage you seem to require. I just built a system with the Ryzen 3600 and stock cooler and I am seriously impressed!
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I have collected enough data and I need no more. Now, I will have to make a decision.
Thanks for your help.
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Cooler for a Ryzen 5 3600:
1)How much better (temperature wise) are Alpenfoehn Sella (https://www.alpenfoehn.de/en/products/cpu-cooler/sella) and Cryorig H7 (CRYORIG H7 | Research Idea Gear) compared to Wraith Stealth (stock cooler)?
2)Alpenfoehn Sella vs Cryorig H7: Which is better and how much?
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Both coolers will get you about -10-15c lower temps under load. Idle not so much maybe 3c but load there is a big difference. Of course there is a difference between "load", meaning gaming load is different from rendering load, with rendering load (extreme) the Wraith Stealth will not hold up under rendering all-core even with just AMD default CPU boost clocks (no PBO). Gaming is ok with the Wraith Stealth unless you're forcing all cores. I also have an R5 3600 and I use the Coolermaster 212 Black which is comparable to the Cryorig you mention.

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Stock Stealth 32c idle / 65-70c gaming (avg) / 90-95c Render (avg and will throttle)

Hyper 212 Black Edition 30c idle / 52-60c gaming (avg) / 80-83c max render (no throttling)
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The AMD Wraith Stealth is fine for normal usage and gaming. Intensive rendering is the only area where it would give issues temperature wise.
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My usage is not normal. I will not go into details. And the summer it can be very hot. I just want a better cooler.

New data: Unfortunately, the place I will buy the parts from cannot bring Arctic coolers and I will have to get a cooler elsewhere. So, I am not restricted to specific brands.

Has anybody tried R5 3600 with an air cooler they can suggest?
Hyper 212 Black.
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