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Old 01-29-2010, 11:46 AM   #1
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I read somewhere ( in a "sticky" here, I believe) that using a registry cleaner was not recommended.

I wanted to use CrapCleaner to aid in maintaining my system, but now I am uncertain. I have run registry cleaners before and clearly they find entries that are associated with long uninstalled programs and other errata.

I have also read that CrapCleaner is one of the least aggressive.

I would appreciate some feedback and/or advice about this issue.

Thoughts?
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:23 PM   #2
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I recomend Argente Software, this is the one I use all the time (at least 3 or 4 times a week) and it has not given me any truoble. I have been using it for about 2 years now. It is a free download. freewarefiles.com/Argente---Registry-Cleaner_program_40811.html
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True, registry cleaners can do more harm than good. Most registry 'errors' (which are not really errors as such) are harmless and at worst add a couple of seconds to the boot time. Genuine errors such as an incorrect file association (where a file tries to open with the wrong program) are better fixed from within Windows or using the relevant program preferences.

If you do decide to clean the registry then I recommend you do so sparingly, and only if you are experiencing problems. CCleaner is one of the less aggressive programs but you still need to know what the program is telling you before you make changes. If I needed to use it more than once every couple of months then I would seriously consider repairing or reinstalling Windows and all applications as there must be an underlying problem.

Also, please back up the registry before doing anything to it. I would use the following procedure:

Backing up the Registry
  • Download ERUNT from this location:- https://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
  • Unzip the downloaded file (named erunt.zip) to a convenient location. I would strongly advise creating a folder named ERUNT within the C:\Windows folder. This will allow the Registry backups to be accessed more easily should your computer fail to boot up for any reason.
  • Open the ERUNT program (named ERUNT.exe).
  • Accept the default name and location offered for the backup file.
  • Make sure 'System registry', 'Current user registry' and 'Other open user registries' are all checked.
  • Click 'OK'.
  • When Erunt has finished, click 'OK' to close the window.

Restoring a Registry Backup
  • Navigate to the folder where the registry backup was saved (it will be in C:\Windows\ERDNT by default).
  • Run the file named ERDNT.exe in that folder.
  • Follow the instructions to restore the appropriate Registry backup files.
  • Reboot your computer to allow Windows to pick up the changed information.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:11 AM   #4
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Thanks Mister2.

Doesn't System Restore do the same thing as Erunt?
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You're welcome.

In most cases System Restore will do the job.
The difference is that where Erunt will back up the whole registry, each System Restore depends on previous Restore Points - if one of those get corrupted then those Restore Points made afterwards will probably not be useable.

Another point is that System Restore also backs up certain files, so it would be possible to restore a malware file (virus, trojan and so on) whereas restoring the registry may restore some registry keys related to malware but not the actual file itself.

In 99% of cases the System Restore is fine, just that I like to have a copy of the registry handy when I make bigger changes.
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ccleaner registry cleaner is not a safe option for a novice to use



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OK...if CC is not safe how about NTREGOPT? From the same people who make ERUNT (in fact, I believe ERUNT comes with NTREGOPT)
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ccleaner registry cleaner is not a safe option for a novice to use

Ok what do you know that I need to know? I use CCleaner for my registry, and so far I haven't had any problems, is it that I know what I'm doing or have I been lucky so far?
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i had a build and maintenance contract for international students

one decided to clean the registry and the rest thought what a bright idea

i spent close to 2 weeks reinstalling the computers

it's rare the registry needs cleaning or compacting and there are safer ones out there

https://www.auslogics.com/en/software/registry-cleaner/



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Hi dai,

I agree that the registry issues picked up by those programs are generally best left alone.

However, I'm curious why Auslogics could be considered safer. A quick (and very unscientific) check of my system showed 136 issues with CCleaner and 365 with Auslogics. The difference is no doubt due to the way the two programs identify an issue, but I'm not convinced either is safer than the other.

EDIT: Typo
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i have not used one for years now

auslogics was like jv16 tools it gave an indication on what was safe to remove

what might not be safe and what definitely was not safe to remove



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Ah, thanks for that - I appreciate the info
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Hey dai I'm going to download it and try it:) thanks, it can't be any worse than the stuff Microsoft sends out.
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