leak test got me

**grassi** · 01-06-2006, 05:09 PM

decided to check up on you guys, and get the latest tips from the experts. when i read about leak this. I have windows xp with built in firewall (and understand this is not that great as posted in your news thread). I also have a netgear router rp614 v2, needless to say the leak test got through?? where do i go from here??

and this is only the first suggestion i took from the team.

**K-B** · 01-06-2006, 05:35 PM

Disable Windows Firewall and get a third-party firewall such as ZoneAlarm or Kerio.
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/conten...ku_list_za.jsp

I tried Windows built in firewall, ran all kinds of tests, the thing is no good.

**grassi** · 01-06-2006, 06:03 PM

i already have netgear router as posted above.firewall xp is just back up. My netgear router should be working, something must be wrong maybe with my set up. That would be a little too much I think to go for another new firewall attempt. I think ill wait for a moderator thanks anyway.

**Spatcher** · 01-06-2006, 06:14 PM

Do you have a firewall on your router? A plain ol' router won't stop a hacker.

**grassi** · 01-06-2006, 06:40 PM

i have windows xp built in firewall, and router has firewall

**Spatcher** · 01-06-2006, 07:24 PM

Well Windows Firewall is well....... junk. It only monitors what comes in, not what goes out.

Your best bet is to download and install Zone Alarm Free because it's the last good free firewall, and monitors both incoming and outcoming things.

**grassi** · 01-06-2006, 07:32 PM

how about my netgear router?? Thats not good enough?? I would have to shut down windows firewall to install zone alarm?? and again how bout that router??

**Glaswegian** · 01-07-2006, 08:12 AM

Hi grassi

Looks to me like you've been given some good advice here.

As has been pointed out Windows firewall only monitors incoming traffic - it does not monitor outgoing traffic. So, If a trojan or hacker managed to get to your PC, you would have no idea what was being sent out - files, passwords etc, etc. All you have to do is download ZoneAlarm, disable Windows firewall Start > Control Panel > Security Centre and turn the firewall OFF. Then install ZA and you will then have two layers of protection.

You will need to check your router set up - try posting in our Networking Forum.

At the end of the day, the amount of protection you want is up to you. Me, I have as much as I can lay my hands on - and I've always been virus and trojan free.

**grassi** · 01-07-2006, 08:45 AM

i will follow your instructions, and thanks for replying wasnt convinced untill a team member replied. Anyway could you tell me the purpose of my router i have now, im not so sure i know??(quick briefing). then i will try posting router in networking. One more thing and NO DISRESPECT, but did you get second opinion through your moderator team. I get nervous about too many different people with opinions, but do understand that your opinion is probably best and was observed by your team. Do me a favor, if you get a chance that tetonbob and ried are good people say hello for me

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW AS I SAID TO THEM IM COMPUTER ILLITERATE SO FORGIVE ME. And thanks for your time. Enjoy your new year. Oh yeah i read somewhere that zone alarm could conflict with ad aware or others and i have some others boy + ad aware.

**Glaswegian** · 01-07-2006, 09:39 AM

Hi grassi

I was speaking from personal experience regarding ZA - I've used it for years and never had any conflicts with other programmes. There are plenty of websites that will tell you how useless the MS firewall is - just do a Google search.

I'm afraid I have absolutely no knowledge of routers - don't use one, so I can't help you there. Best to post in the Networking Forum - that's where the experts are.

Good luck!

**grassi** · 01-07-2006, 09:50 AM

thank you i am very aware of what you said is true i have done some research before posting to help myself and you to understand what the heck im talking about. And im getting same results. one more is there one that i can buy perhaps?

**Glaswegian** · 01-07-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grassi

one more is there one that i can buy perhaps?

Sorry - what is it you want to buy?

**grassi** · 01-07-2006, 10:15 AM

can i buy za with maybe more options\better quality more monitoring. what ever im trying to say(hahaha) sorry about confusion

**Glaswegian** · 01-07-2006, 10:27 AM

Yep, you can buy ZA Pro. Comes with its own anti spyware, e-mail protection, AV monitoring. ID lock and so on. There's no real difference with the firewall part though and that's what is important.

**grassi** · 01-07-2006, 10:29 AM

you mean no differance between free firewall vs. costly firewall

peterdiva · 01-07-2006, 01:30 PM

If you want to test your router's firewall you can do it here.Disable Windows' firewall first though.If it passes all tests then you only need a software firewall to block outgoing traffic.I have a modem\router so I only need ZoneAlarm for outgoing traffic,which I've also used for some time without any problems.

**grassi** · 01-07-2006, 06:19 PM

ok i did all tests leak this and got a security warning for download so i hit no.then to grc and passed that test then on to MIMO security news and clicked on 3rd option in the look at this link. found a tool called copycat and tried it/ran it. well i had an interuption from norton and said virus detected unable to repair virus type said hacker? i dont think this is part of the download?? Please help I checked norton and see nothing should i post hjt log??

**grassi** · 01-08-2006, 08:12 AM

can somebody please help me?? My last post. Its been there for a couple of days but edited yesterday just for spell correction. your suggestion to try copycat in mimos news thread led me to a virus attack, is this normal in copycat procedure.

**grassi** · 01-08-2006, 10:06 AM

im gonna post in hjt log for i have viruses from your security news suggestions??

01-06-2006, 05:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	leak test got me decided to check up on you guys, and get the latest tips from the experts. when i read about leak this. I have windows xp with built in firewall (and understand this is not that great as posted in your news thread). I also have a netgear router rp614 v2, needless to say the leak test got through?? where do i go from here?? and this is only the first suggestion i took from the team.

01-06-2006, 05:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
K-B Moderator, Linux Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NY Posts: 2,878 OS: Vista, Ubuntu My System	Disable Windows Firewall and get a third-party firewall such as ZoneAlarm or Kerio. http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html http://www.zonelabs.com/store/conten...ku_list_za.jsp I tried Windows built in firewall, ran all kinds of tests, the thing is no good. __________________

01-06-2006, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	i already have netgear router as posted above.firewall xp is just back up. My netgear router should be working, something must be wrong maybe with my set up. That would be a little too much I think to go for another new firewall attempt. I think ill wait for a moderator thanks anyway. Last edited by grassi; 01-06-2006 at 06:13 PM.

01-06-2006, 06:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,484 OS: Mac OSX	Do you have a firewall on your router? A plain ol' router won't stop a hacker. __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

01-06-2006, 06:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	thank you i have windows xp built in firewall, and router has firewall

01-06-2006, 07:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Spatcher Henry Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,484 OS: Mac OSX	Well Windows Firewall is well....... junk. It only monitors what comes in, not what goes out. Your best bet is to download and install Zone Alarm Free because it's the last good free firewall, and monitors both incoming and outcoming things. __________________ JohnThePilot: Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon (a nation without a language is a nation without a heart) John Butler Trio: Go take a step outside, see what's shakin' in the real world - Good Excuse Paul Kelly: Just add a dollop of tomato sauce for sweetness and that extra tang - How to Make Gravy

01-06-2006, 07:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	how about my netgear router?? Thats not good enough?? I would have to shut down windows firewall to install zone alarm?? and again how bout that router?? Last edited by grassi; 01-06-2006 at 07:34 PM.

01-07-2006, 08:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 25,489 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 / Win 7 Pro My System Blog Entries: 10	Hi grassi Looks to me like you've been given some good advice here. As has been pointed out Windows firewall only monitors incoming traffic - it does not monitor outgoing traffic. So, If a trojan or hacker managed to get to your PC, you would have no idea what was being sent out - files, passwords etc, etc. All you have to do is download ZoneAlarm, disable Windows firewall Start > Control Panel > Security Centre and turn the firewall OFF. Then install ZA and you will then have two layers of protection. You will need to check your router set up - try posting in our Networking Forum. At the end of the day, the amount of protection you want is up to you. Me, I have as much as I can lay my hands on - and I've always been virus and trojan free. __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. PC Safety & Security::PC running a bit slow?::Donate::Photographers Corner

01-07-2006, 08:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	ok Glaswegian i will follow your instructions, and thanks for replying wasnt convinced untill a team member replied. Anyway could you tell me the purpose of my router i have now, im not so sure i know??(quick briefing). then i will try posting router in networking. One more thing and NO DISRESPECT, but did you get second opinion through your moderator team. I get nervous about too many different people with opinions, but do understand that your opinion is probably best and was observed by your team. Do me a favor, if you get a chance that tetonbob and ried are good people say hello for me AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW AS I SAID TO THEM IM COMPUTER ILLITERATE SO FORGIVE ME. And thanks for your time. Enjoy your new year. Oh yeah i read somewhere that zone alarm could conflict with ad aware or others and i have some others boy + ad aware. Last edited by grassi; 01-07-2006 at 08:59 AM.

01-07-2006, 09:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 25,489 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 / Win 7 Pro My System Blog Entries: 10	Hi grassi I was speaking from personal experience regarding ZA - I've used it for years and never had any conflicts with other programmes. There are plenty of websites that will tell you how useless the MS firewall is - just do a Google search. I'm afraid I have absolutely no knowledge of routers - don't use one, so I can't help you there. Best to post in the Networking Forum - that's where the experts are. Good luck! __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. PC Safety & Security::PC running a bit slow?::Donate::Photographers Corner

01-07-2006, 09:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	thank you i am very aware of what you said is true i have done some research before posting to help myself and you to understand what the heck im talking about. And im getting same results. one more is there one that i can buy perhaps?

01-07-2006, 10:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	can i buy za with maybe more options\better quality more monitoring. what ever im trying to say(hahaha) sorry about confusion

01-07-2006, 10:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
Glaswegian Moderator/ Rangemaster TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team; Oor Wullie; TSF Surgeon and Resident Comic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 25,489 OS: Win XP Pro SP3 / Win 7 Pro My System Blog Entries: 10	Yep, you can buy ZA Pro. Comes with its own anti spyware, e-mail protection, AV monitoring. ID lock and so on. There's no real difference with the firewall part though and that's what is important. __________________ Iain - Defender of the Haggis and all things Scottish. I don't help by PM - post in the Forums. PC Safety & Security::PC running a bit slow?::Donate::Photographers Corner

01-07-2006, 10:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	you mean no differance between free firewall vs. costly firewall

01-07-2006, 01:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
peterdiva Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 455 OS: WinXP	If you want to test your router's firewall you can do it here.Disable Windows' firewall first though.If it passes all tests then you only need a software firewall to block outgoing traffic.I have a modem\router so I only need ZoneAlarm for outgoing traffic,which I've also used for some time without any problems.

01-07-2006, 06:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	oh boy ok i did all tests leak this and got a security warning for download so i hit no.then to grc and passed that test then on to MIMO security news and clicked on 3rd option in the look at this link. found a tool called copycat and tried it/ran it. well i had an interuption from norton and said virus detected unable to repair virus type said hacker? i dont think this is part of the download?? Please help I checked norton and see nothing should i post hjt log??

01-08-2006, 08:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	can somebody please help me?? My last post. Its been there for a couple of days but edited yesterday just for spell correction. your suggestion to try copycat in mimos news thread led me to a virus attack, is this normal in copycat procedure. Last edited by grassi; 01-08-2006 at 08:37 AM.

01-08-2006, 10:06 AM	#19 (permalink)
grassi TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: upstate, n.y. Posts: 935 OS: xp pro, sp3 My System	im gonna post in hjt log for i have viruses from your security news suggestions??