Antivirus

cool_princess · 11-03-2008, 04:03 AM

Which is the best antivirus program to detect and destroy the spywares?

jarod · 11-03-2008, 05:11 AM

Most antivirus as i see it seems to prevent spyware from getting into your PC. If you want a specific spyware removal, try spybot search and destroy

**Glaswegian** · 11-03-2008, 05:11 AM

Bear in mind that no single AV on its own will provide full protection from every piece of malware. You need to have several layers of defence. Have a look here for some suggestions

PC Safety and Security--What Do I Need?

Chr1$ · 11-11-2008, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cool_princess

Which is the best antivirus program to detect and destroy the spywares?

That doesn't exist.
You see all anti virus softwares... are all different, and have different definition database's. (works on different types of malicious taged signatures)

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Most antivirus as i see it seems to prevent spyware from getting into your PC

Not really that only applies during run-time rather than scan-time.

Anti virus's are unreliable. I recommend a virtual workstation. Like VMWARE. Which acts as a virtual/multi operating system. You can run programs on there and it doesn't effect ones operating system, but executes it on another operating system.

Or a emulator like sandboxie, which executes scripts without it effecting the the local host files on a operating system. But still exploitable.

rdc500 · 11-18-2008, 06:06 PM

How about Nod32, it seems like it does a very good job. But it's not free.

**Mcninjaguy** · 11-18-2008, 10:48 PM

I have NOD32 it uses a low amount resources and catches everything under the sun

rdc500 · 11-19-2008, 09:40 AM

I agree 100% Nod32 is the best at this time.

**SABL** · 11-19-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Glaswegian

Bear in mind that no single AV on its own will provide full protection from every piece of malware. You need to have several layers of defence. Have a look here for some suggestions

PC Safety and Security--What Do I Need?

A sad note. I'm thinking of my first PC (not including my Vic20....LMAO) and the hardware/resources that were commonplace. If technology had not grown exponentially we would only have enough storage/resources to accomodate protection from exploitation. I find it amazing that a decent portion of my system is needed just to protect myself while I am online.

**Mcninjaguy** · 11-19-2008, 04:17 PM

for windows its about 4 - 5 layers some you don't even realize are there and even Mac system have at least a couple layers

1st layer - router hardware/firewall
2nd layer - windows firewall
3rd layer - Anti virus program (nod32)
4th layer - anti spyware (spybot)
5th layer - UAC (user account control -vista) or with ubuntu its the authentication and the password input.

Linux and mac systems would have #'s 1,2 and 5

now my Nod32 uses up around 10mb of RAM on none scanning times and you usually never have to scan with NOD32 since it's really really good at picking up viruses

Spybot uses around 70mb of RAM since it has the "Teatimer" protection which you have to allow decisions that change your registry

these are a very small amount of resources for a pretty safe computer and another measure of protection is after the router you could always put up a hardware based router firewall or netnanny type device that can block sites and the such
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...name=Firewalls

tetonbob · 11-19-2008, 05:02 PM

Good posts. One additional comment to router for others reading....be SURE to change default logon user name and password. Use a strong password. Recent infections are targeting many routers which have default user names and passwords still set for their admin access page.

**Mcninjaguy** · 11-20-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tetonbob

Good posts. One additional comment to router for others reading....be SURE to change default logon user name and password. Use a strong password. Recent infections are targeting many routers which have default user names and passwords still set for their admin access page.

would a purely wired router be subject to these attacks since its much harder to hack into (thhey would have to go to the DSL box down thtreet right?)? I have wireless and my password is not the default and my encryption is a long WPA2 encryption (so I'm not worried)

tetonbob · 11-20-2008, 09:50 AM

It's more about the access to the router than the wired/wireless. These infections seek internet access to routers which have out of the box user name/password combos, or weak passwords. Once they have access to a router, then change the DNS settings in the router, not on the PC, so all traffic out is directed via their control.

Some reading:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sec..._wirele_1.html

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/200...er_insecurity/

http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/200...ur-router.html

http://www.geekstogo.com/2008/04/08/...-to-read-this/

**Mcninjaguy** · 11-20-2008, 08:45 PM

So my router seems pretty safe to me
I don't have the UPnP function on my 2 wire 2701HG-G router (Universal Plug and Play = UPnP)
and my default password is changed

11-03-2008, 04:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
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11-18-2008, 06:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
rdc500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: Antivirus How about Nod32, it seems like it does a very good job. But it's not free.

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Mcninjaguy Mentor, Games Team Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 8,079 OS: Windows 7 64bit, Ubuntu 8.10 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Antivirus I have NOD32 it uses a low amount resources and catches everything under the sun __________________ If you have problem PM me and I'll respond in the thread you made power-supply-information-selection Microsoft MVP Neal K

11-19-2008, 09:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
rdc500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36 OS: Vista Ultimate	Re: Antivirus I agree 100% Nod32 is the best at this time.

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Mcninjaguy Mentor, Games Team Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 8,079 OS: Windows 7 64bit, Ubuntu 8.10 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Antivirus for windows its about 4 - 5 layers some you don't even realize are there and even Mac system have at least a couple layers 1st layer - router hardware/firewall 2nd layer - windows firewall 3rd layer - Anti virus program (nod32) 4th layer - anti spyware (spybot) 5th layer - UAC (user account control -vista) or with ubuntu its the authentication and the password input. Linux and mac systems would have #'s 1,2 and 5 now my Nod32 uses up around 10mb of RAM on none scanning times and you usually never have to scan with NOD32 since it's really really good at picking up viruses Spybot uses around 70mb of RAM since it has the "Teatimer" protection which you have to allow decisions that change your registry these are a very small amount of resources for a pretty safe computer and another measure of protection is after the router you could always put up a hardware based router firewall or netnanny type device that can block sites and the such http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...name=Firewalls __________________ If you have problem PM me and I'll respond in the thread you made power-supply-information-selection Microsoft MVP Neal K

11-19-2008, 05:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
tetonbob Manager, Security Center, TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Transylvania County, North Carolina, USA Posts: 32,567 OS: 2000 Pro; XP Pro; XP Home	Re: Antivirus Good posts. One additional comment to router for others reading....be SURE to change default logon user name and password. Use a strong password. Recent infections are targeting many routers which have default user names and passwords still set for their admin access page. __________________ Practice Safe Surfing PC Safety and Security--What Do I Need? Because what you don't know, CAN hurt you. Proud Member of ASAP since 2005 Proud Member of UNITE since 2006 Please do not ask for help via Private Message.

11-20-2008, 09:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
tetonbob Manager, Security Center, TSF Academy; Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Transylvania County, North Carolina, USA Posts: 32,567 OS: 2000 Pro; XP Pro; XP Home	Re: Antivirus It's more about the access to the router than the wired/wireless. These infections seek internet access to routers which have out of the box user name/password combos, or weak passwords. Once they have access to a router, then change the DNS settings in the router, not on the PC, so all traffic out is directed via their control. Some reading: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sec..._wirele_1.html http://www.channelregister.co.uk/200...er_insecurity/ http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/200...ur-router.html http://www.geekstogo.com/2008/04/08/...-to-read-this/ __________________ Practice Safe Surfing PC Safety and Security--What Do I Need? Because what you don't know, CAN hurt you. Proud Member of ASAP since 2005 Proud Member of UNITE since 2006 Please do not ask for help via Private Message.

11-20-2008, 08:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Mentor, Games Team Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 8,079 OS: Windows 7 64bit, Ubuntu 8.10 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Antivirus So my router seems pretty safe to me I don't have the UPnP function on my 2 wire 2701HG-G router (Universal Plug and Play = UPnP) and my default password is changed __________________ If you have problem PM me and I'll respond in the thread you made power-supply-information-selection Microsoft MVP Neal K