Wake up America

Mcninjaguy · 10-22-2009, 08:56 AM

Watch this video and discuss

YouTube - Wake up, America

**Canaanabolaanan** · 10-22-2009, 02:06 PM

Lol, "Ireland is literally being raped by religion." I think that maybe he doesn't get the term "rape."

... or "literally."

He's pretty eccentric so far (1:31 in), but I'm on board with his broader message.

Lol@ ending. "Peace. Oh yes."

Mcninjaguy · 10-23-2009, 12:07 AM

He is a bit eccentric but his message of political bendovers bowing to religious overlords is a good one to heed.

~~MichaelTech~~ · 10-23-2009, 03:22 PM

Who needs to wake up? I guess we here in America have all the friendly islamics who behave nicely. Wake up Europe! Do not cater to the muslim dictatorship.
We dont allow no mooslims tellin us whut to do.

HumanoidComplex · 10-23-2009, 03:58 PM

I think the "Hate Crimes" bill just passed. might want to double check that.

Mcninjaguy · 10-24-2009, 03:22 AM

Where did the Bill pass?

~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-24-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HumanoidComplex

I think the "Hate Crimes" bill just passed. might want to double check that.

What is hate crimes bill??

**jcgriff2** · 10-24-2009, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelTech

Who needs to wake up? I guess we here in America have all the friendly islamics who behave nicely. Wake up Europe! Do not cater to the muslim dictatorship.
We dont allow no mooslims tellin us whut to do.

Yes... ALL are very nice.... so nice we have anniversaries in memorium - 1993, 2001.

AGREED. Wake Up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engineer Babar

What is hate crimes bill??

This was passed to allow Americans to continue to be hated on our own soil.
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~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-24-2009, 11:51 PM

@above

Why are you giving blame to the all the Muslims?? 9/11 was the American agencies drama.. no terrorists can break into a superpower.. Now in Iraq and Afghanistan, when you will throw bombs on innocent people then there will be a reaction.. Simple..

Mcninjaguy · 10-25-2009, 01:45 AM

Its not just the Muslims but any religion that is trying to throw its power around I can't stand. I don't like those power wielding Christians or Catholics, or any religion that is trying to force me to change. I don't like the pope or any cleric for that matter.

They smashed a plane into a skyscraper killing thousands of innocent lives. There is no further truth to be told.

Wake and smell the truth Babar, its there to see. although it may be hidden. There are atrocities on both sides but you are comparing an army killing willing people of the Taliban to a bunch of low life terrorists who only felt that they should take out people with other human shields as their sacrifice.

GET REAL!

~~Bravo Boy~~ · 10-25-2009, 03:48 AM

This is sooooo contrary to the truth!
sad...an incredibly deceptive video.!

~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-25-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bravo Boy

This is sooooo contrary to the truth!
sad...an incredibly deceptive video.!

Indeed it is.. the man in the video needs his knowledge to be upgraded..

**djaburg** · 10-25-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo Boy

This is sooooo contrary to the truth!
sad...an incredibly deceptive video.!

Please enlighten us on your perception of the truth.

~~Bravo Boy~~ · 10-25-2009, 08:55 PM

Well..I am really glad to know that you are willing to know the truth, unlike most of the people are..
First of all I would like to tell you that Islam does not criticize on the freedom of speech. The Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H) introduced the concept of freedom of speech, not only for men but also for women and this was the time when the savage people of Arab used to bury the girls alive!
After the death of Prophet(P.B.U.H), Hazrat Umar, introduced the "Majlis-e-Shoorah".
In this assembly, people were free to speak whatever they want regarding any problem.One of the words that were often spoken by Hazrat Umar in this assembly(majlis) were.. "La-khilafa illa en-mashwara" whose English translation is as follows:
" The concept of Government is forbidden and worthless with
discussion among people."
In 21 Hijra, people complained Hazrat Umar about one of the governers named Saad bin abi Waqas. This was the time when a foreign state were preparing to attack the Muslims. But Hazrat Umar called Saad bin abi Waqas and talked to him, in front of the people and this resulted in the resolution of the problems.
Once Hazrat Umar said to the Governers:
" Remember, you people are chosen to govern not because i want you
to become ruthless. Give the people their rights.Keep your windows
open for them.Dont show that you are superior to them in any
aspect, for this would be a sign of your ruthlessness."

~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-25-2009, 11:56 PM

That's very intelligent Bravo.. As far as giving blame of 9/11 to Muslims.. watch this video..

YouTube - DR. ZAKIR NAIK COMMENTS ON THE September 11 Attack. 9.11

~~Bravo Boy~~ · 10-26-2009, 01:17 AM

Thanks buddy!
If some people say that some Muslims were involved in 9/11(though i think they were not) then FIGHTING and HATING each other is not the solution..
In the video "wake up america", the person speaking gives a direction towards hating which i guess isn't the solution of any problem at all..

~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-26-2009, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo Boy

Thanks buddy!
If some people say that some Muslims were involved in 9/11(though i think they were not) then FIGHTING and HATING each other is not the solution..
In the video "wake up america", the person speaking gives a direction towards hating which i guess isn't the solution of any problem at all..

Yeah you are right.. Love is all we need at the moment.. the number of innocent people killed in Afghanistan and Iraq is more than the innocent people killed on 9/11..

**bruiser** · 10-26-2009, 06:30 AM

Osama admits to it. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in652425.shtml

Of course posters like Babar and Bravo Boy would rather believe the conspiracy theorists.

**djaburg** · 10-26-2009, 08:32 AM

Of course, just as our media NEVER misrepresents the truth, certainly the Islamic media would NEVER alter the message going out to the followers, would they? I would guess that their media selectively reports the news of the day to a pro-Islamic point of view. I would find it hard to believe that most third world nations would want their people to know just how bad they have it.

~~Bravo Boy~~ · 10-26-2009, 11:09 AM

Well what i would like to say is that whatever you wrote about about the media of Islamic states is is contrary to the tuth..the media is free here which shows whatever the reality is..and even if you disagree with this then I lemme make you familiar with the fact that there are certain TV shows shown on the TV channels of Islamic states which are affiliated with foreign nations.For example, on Geo TV, which is a Pakistani TV channel, a show called "Voice of America" is affiliated with America. And this is a show which criticizes on the defects of either side, and the ways to solve these problems.
And if you say that Osama has agreed that he was involved in 9/11, then who says he's a Muslim. He's a so-called Muslim. If he's a terrorist, he's a problem to all. And if he's a terrorist, we cannot say that he's a Muslim. Because the Holy Prophet(P.B.U.H) said:
" The one who kills a person, kills the whole humanity."
And according to the Islam, killing is one of the biggest sins and the one who commits this is excluded from the Muslim community.

10-22-2009, 08:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Wake up America Watch this video and discuss YouTube - Wake up, America

10-22-2009, 02:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Canaanabolaanan TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 551 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Wake up America Lol, "Ireland is literally being raped by religion." I think that maybe he doesn't get the term "rape." ... or "literally." He's pretty eccentric so far (1:31 in), but I'm on board with his broader message. Lol@ ending. "Peace. Oh yes." Last edited by Canaanabolaanan; 10-22-2009 at 02:11 PM.

10-23-2009, 12:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Wake up America He is a bit eccentric but his message of political bendovers bowing to religious overlords is a good one to heed.

10-23-2009, 03:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
~~MichaelTech~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Simi, Ca. Posts: 170 OS: XP Pro/Corporate	Re: Wake up America Who needs to wake up? I guess we here in America have all the friendly islamics who behave nicely. Wake up Europe! Do not cater to the muslim dictatorship. We dont allow no mooslims tellin us whut to do.

10-23-2009, 03:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
HumanoidComplex Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 97 OS: xp	Re: Wake up America I think the "Hate Crimes" bill just passed. might want to double check that.

10-24-2009, 03:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Wake up America Where did the Bill pass?

10-24-2009, 11:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~Engineer Babar~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 724 OS: xp home 2006 sp2	Re: Wake up America @above Why are you giving blame to the all the Muslims?? 9/11 was the American agencies drama.. no terrorists can break into a superpower.. Now in Iraq and Afghanistan, when you will throw bombs on innocent people then there will be a reaction.. Simple..

10-25-2009, 01:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Wake up America Its not just the Muslims but any religion that is trying to throw its power around I can't stand. I don't like those power wielding Christians or Catholics, or any religion that is trying to force me to change. I don't like the pope or any cleric for that matter. They smashed a plane into a skyscraper killing thousands of innocent lives. There is no further truth to be told. Wake and smell the truth Babar, its there to see. although it may be hidden. There are atrocities on both sides but you are comparing an army killing willing people of the Taliban to a bunch of low life terrorists who only felt that they should take out people with other human shields as their sacrifice. GET REAL!

10-25-2009, 03:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
~~Bravo Boy~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 236 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Wake up America This is sooooo contrary to the truth! sad...an incredibly deceptive video.!

10-25-2009, 08:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
~~Bravo Boy~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 236 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Wake up America Well..I am really glad to know that you are willing to know the truth, unlike most of the people are.. First of all I would like to tell you that Islam does not criticize on the freedom of speech. The Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H) introduced the concept of freedom of speech, not only for men but also for women and this was the time when the savage people of Arab used to bury the girls alive! After the death of Prophet(P.B.U.H), Hazrat Umar, introduced the "Majlis-e-Shoorah". In this assembly, people were free to speak whatever they want regarding any problem.One of the words that were often spoken by Hazrat Umar in this assembly(majlis) were.. "La-khilafa illa en-mashwara" whose English translation is as follows: " The concept of Government is forbidden and worthless with discussion among people." In 21 Hijra, people complained Hazrat Umar about one of the governers named Saad bin abi Waqas. This was the time when a foreign state were preparing to attack the Muslims. But Hazrat Umar called Saad bin abi Waqas and talked to him, in front of the people and this resulted in the resolution of the problems. Once Hazrat Umar said to the Governers: " Remember, you people are chosen to govern not because i want you to become ruthless. Give the people their rights.Keep your windows open for them.Dont show that you are superior to them in any aspect, for this would be a sign of your ruthlessness."

10-25-2009, 11:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~Engineer Babar~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 724 OS: xp home 2006 sp2	Re: Wake up America That's very intelligent Bravo.. As far as giving blame of 9/11 to Muslims.. watch this video.. YouTube - DR. ZAKIR NAIK COMMENTS ON THE September 11 Attack. 9.11

10-26-2009, 01:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
~~Bravo Boy~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 236 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Wake up America Thanks buddy! If some people say that some Muslims were involved in 9/11(though i think they were not) then FIGHTING and HATING each other is not the solution.. In the video "wake up america", the person speaking gives a direction towards hating which i guess isn't the solution of any problem at all..

10-26-2009, 06:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
bruiser TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,972 OS: xp	Re: Wake up America Osama admits to it. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in652425.shtml Of course posters like Babar and Bravo Boy would rather believe the conspiracy theorists.

10-26-2009, 08:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
djaburg TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,316 OS: XP SP3/Vista/7 Server 2K/2K3/2K8	Re: Wake up America Of course, just as our media NEVER misrepresents the truth, certainly the Islamic media would NEVER alter the message going out to the followers, would they? I would guess that their media selectively reports the news of the day to a pro-Islamic point of view. I would find it hard to believe that most third world nations would want their people to know just how bad they have it. __________________ Computers make it easier to do a lot of things, but most of the things they make it easier to do don't need to be done. The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery.

10-26-2009, 11:09 AM	#20 (permalink)
~~Bravo Boy~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 236 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Wake up America Well what i would like to say is that whatever you wrote about about the media of Islamic states is is contrary to the tuth..the media is free here which shows whatever the reality is..and even if you disagree with this then I lemme make you familiar with the fact that there are certain TV shows shown on the TV channels of Islamic states which are affiliated with foreign nations.For example, on Geo TV, which is a Pakistani TV channel, a show called "Voice of America" is affiliated with America. And this is a show which criticizes on the defects of either side, and the ways to solve these problems. And if you say that Osama has agreed that he was involved in 9/11, then who says he's a Muslim. He's a so-called Muslim. If he's a terrorist, he's a problem to all. And if he's a terrorist, we cannot say that he's a Muslim. Because the Holy Prophet(P.B.U.H) said: " The one who kills a person, kills the whole humanity." And according to the Islam, killing is one of the biggest sins and the one who commits this is excluded from the Muslim community.