Barack Obama adviser says Sharia Law is misunderstood

**Jason** · 10-15-2009, 07:25 AM

Miss Mogahed, appointed to the President's Council on Faith-Based and Neighbourhood Partnerships, said the Western view of Sharia was "oversimplified" and the majority of women around the world associate it with "gender justice".

The White House adviser made the remarks on a London-based TV discussion programme hosted by Ibtihal Bsis, a member of the extremist Hizb ut Tahrir party.

The group believes in the non-violent destruction of Western democracy and the creation of an Islamic state under Sharia Law across the world.

Miss Mogahed appeared alongside Hizb ut Tahrir's national women's officer, Nazreen Nawaz.

During the 45-minute discussion, on the Islam Channel programme Muslimah Dilemma earlier this week, the two members of the group made repeated attacks on secular "man-made law" and the West's "lethal cocktail of liberty and capitalism".

They called for Sharia Law to be "the source of legislation" and said that women should not be "permitted to hold a position of leadership in government".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nderstood.html

Mcninjaguy · 10-16-2009, 07:32 AM

That adviser needs to be fired right now!

I don't want Oppresion so close to our brother nation to the south. Canada is having issues with people who think Shariah law is good too. Well Religion and state should not be mixed, thats a bad decision.

**djaburg** · 10-16-2009, 10:51 AM

Or perhaps he knows exactly who he's appointing and try to surround himself with people that understand and will support his agenda. I believe all presidents have done that. I don't think we've had such a radical departure from mainstream as we've had with BHO.

yustr · 10-16-2009, 11:22 AM

I haven't been able to locate a full transcript of her interview, and most reports talk more to "the group's" positions (meaning the group to which the host belongs) than to Miss Mogahed's. One quote I could find is most probably true given the level of ignorance typical in the west:

Quote:

I think the reason so many women support Sharia is because they have a very different understanding of sharia than the common perception in Western media.

That said, if you've been around the PS for any length of time you know I think incorporating any religious dogma into law makes for bad law. This is no exception. I object to the whole concept of a faith based anything; and certainly anything to do with governance.

Should she be fired? Yes. And fire the rest of them while you're at it - we'll all be better off.

~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-16-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Miss Mogahed, appointed to the President's Council on Faith-Based and Neighbourhood Partnerships, said the Western view of Sharia was "oversimplified" and the majority of women around the world associate it with "gender justice".

The White House adviser made the remarks on a London-based TV discussion programme hosted by Ibtihal Bsis, a member of the extremist Hizb ut Tahrir party.

The group believes in the non-violent destruction of Western democracy and the creation of an Islamic state under Sharia Law across the world.

Miss Mogahed appeared alongside Hizb ut Tahrir's national women's officer, Nazreen Nawaz.

During the 45-minute discussion, on the Islam Channel programme Muslimah Dilemma earlier this week, the two members of the group made repeated attacks on secular "man-made law" and the West's "lethal cocktail of liberty and capitalism".

They called for Sharia Law to be "the source of legislation" and said that women should not be "permitted to hold a position of leadership in government".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nderstood.html

Mcninjaguy · 10-16-2009, 02:52 PM

Why do you think your system would work in ours babar? You don't want our system in yours so you should leave it well alone. I like it secular and a lot of Canada does too. We do want your religion. I don't want Christianity either.

If you can't conform to our laws stay out of the US. We all know that an extremist group ios extreme and every thing they say is a lie. Your point is just invalid in what it really means about the non violent way of dissolving out government and US's government. Us Canadians will fight you for our liberties. We will not give up. Ilve my freedom of Speech, I love how women are in Office they are 50% of population and need a voice.

Equality will be shout from the rooftops eventually Babar and you'll be left in the dust in your country.

Tsona · 10-16-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Miss Mogahed, appointed to the President's Council on Faith-Based and Neighbourhood Partnerships, said the Western view of Sharia was "oversimplified" and the majority of women around the world associate it with "gender justice".

some clarity on what Sharia law would be great. i'm not sure what it really is since they say our meaning of it is different then theres???

The group believes in the non-violent destruction of Western democracy and the creation of an Islamic state under Sharia Law across the world.

this sounds like world domination?wasnt that hitlers goal too?

Miss Mogahed appeared alongside Hizb ut Tahrir's national women's officer, Nazreen Nawaz.

Both of these are women right?

During the 45-minute discussion, on the Islam Channel programme Muslimah Dilemma earlier this week, the two members of the group made repeated attacks on secular "man-made law" and the West's "lethal cocktail of liberty and capitalism".

So they talk bad about how the USA's laws are made by men, (which is not true) and how freedom is "lethal"

They called for Sharia Law to be "the source of legislation" and said that women should not be "permitted to hold a position of leadership in government".

then they say that women should not be allowed to lead, which basically means they shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion??? two women in leadership positions saying they should not be allowed to hold positions? i dont understand this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nderstood.html

Mcninjaguy · 10-16-2009, 04:11 PM

Yes because Shariah law = Hypocripsy.

Its crap and yes a lot of people who are in the extremist view do think the Nazi's were the best thing since sliced bread.

Tumbleweed36 · 10-16-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by yustr

Should she be fired? Yes. And fire the rest of them while you're at it - we'll all be better off.

How could I disagree with someone who has a lot of common sense?

~~Engineer Babar~~ · 10-16-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy

Why do you think your system would work in ours babar? You don't want our system in yours so you should leave it well alone. I like it secular and a lot of Canada does too. We do want your religion. I don't want Christianity either.

If you can't conform to our laws stay out of the US. We all know that an extremist group ios extreme and every thing they say is a lie. Your point is just invalid in what it really means about the non violent way of dissolving out government and US's government. Us Canadians will fight you for our liberties. We will not give up. Ilve my freedom of Speech, I love how women are in Office they are 50% of population and need a voice.

Equality will be shout from the rooftops eventually Babar and you'll be left in the dust in your country.

I don't want to answer you crap ideas.. Because then this thread will also end up like that pentagon thread.. I don't know why any thread becomes so flamed ones you jump in.. Because you use inappropriate language and try to impose your ideas on other.. HUH

yustr · 10-17-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Engineer Babar

I don't want to answer you crap ideas.. Because then this thread will also end up like that pentagon thread.. I don't know why any thread becomes so flamed ones you jump in.. Because you use inappropriate language and try to impose your ideas on other.. HUH

If you have a problem with a member, please call it to a manager's attention and let us deal with it as we see fit.

Thread closed.

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Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Barack Obama adviser says Sharia Law is misunderstood Why do you think your system would work in ours babar? You don't want our system in yours so you should leave it well alone. I like it secular and a lot of Canada does too. We do want your religion. I don't want Christianity either. If you can't conform to our laws stay out of the US. We all know that an extremist group ios extreme and every thing they say is a lie. Your point is just invalid in what it really means about the non violent way of dissolving out government and US's government. Us Canadians will fight you for our liberties. We will not give up. Ilve my freedom of Speech, I love how women are in Office they are 50% of population and need a voice. Equality will be shout from the rooftops eventually Babar and you'll be left in the dust in your country.

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Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Barack Obama adviser says Sharia Law is misunderstood Yes because Shariah law = Hypocripsy. Its crap and yes a lot of people who are in the extremist view do think the Nazi's were the best thing since sliced bread.