North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour

**Chode** · 07-06-2009, 05:20 PM

North Korea continues to engage in behavior that seems strange to say the least. For the past two weeks, the Kang Nam 1 has pursued a meandering, 10 knot course in the China Sea, while being shadowed by a U.S. destroyer. Some analysts believe that the ship is carrying conventional arms for Myanmar, some think its only purpose is to confuse and piss off America.

You can read differing analyses at Military.com and GlobalSecurity.org.

**Jason** · 07-06-2009, 06:26 PM

Did they ever file the missile towards Hawaii on the 4th? I haven't seen it on any of the websites.

yustr · 07-06-2009, 07:00 PM

Reminds me of this joke:

A cop is watching a roadside bar at the edge of town just at closing time. Hoping to catch the inevitable drunk trying to begin his trek home, he's concealed just up the road away from town so he can follow the idiot. Out of the bar staggers a man in an obvious state of drunkenness. His shirt is untucked. His coat is miss-buttoned. He trips twice walking to the parking area. He drops his keys retrieving them from his pants. Tries to open a car only to realize its not his. He clearly has forgot where he parked so he scans the entire lot. Finally, noticing his car he bounces pinball style through the parked cars.

The cop follows every drunken move. Knowing for sure he'll make an arrest and meet his monthly goal.

The drunk finally gets to his car. Starts the engine and turns on the wipers even though it is not raining. He turns them off and then the lights come on. Into reverse he goes - but its forward to get to the exit. Now at the exit he first signals left (toward town) then changes his mind and signals right - away from town and toward the waiting patrol car.

As he passes, the cop pulls out to follow and notices that he's not speeding, he's not veering across the lanes, in fact he's obeying every law. After a few miles of this the cop decides to pull him over anyway. He approaches the car and asks the driver to get out.

Driver: "Is there a problem officer?"

Officer: "I think you're drunk."

Driver: "I beg to differ. I haven't had anything to drink tonight."

Officer: "That can't be true. I saw you in the parking lot and you were clearly drunk. How can this be? Please explain."

Driver: "That's easy. I'm the designated decoy."

**Drew1369** · 07-07-2009, 01:27 PM

I like that one :D

However we are watching their ports... if other ships leave we have intel on... this ship is just one that the media has latched onto

machinetech · 07-10-2009, 01:34 PM

It is a test from North Korea, and Iran for that matter, for President Obama. They see him as weak and submissive. They can get away with things that a President with serious National security goals, would not let them get away with.

**Chode** · 07-10-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinetech

It is a test from North Korea, and Iran for that matter, for President Obama. They see him as weak and submissive. They can get away with things that a President with serious National security goals, would not let them get away with.

Soitenly! Unlike Bush's efforts which crippled both North Korea's and Iran's nuclear programs as well as preventing their conventional arms buildup.

Tumbleweed36 · 07-10-2009, 07:20 PM

The facts of the case are that the real deception with nuclear weapons started when Bill Clinton trusted them without verification and they lied to him about building strategic weapons and he bought their story hook, line, and sucker....err, I mean sinker, while they continued to build nuclear weapons. Bush picked up a gaggle of issues from your friend Slick Willy.

**Chode** · 07-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36

The facts of the case are that the real deception with nuclear weapons started when Bill Clinton trusted them without verification and they lied to him about building strategic weapons and he bought their story hook, line, and sucker....err, I mean sinker, while they continued to build nuclear weapons. Bush picked up a gaggle of issues from your friend Slick Willy.

Indeed he did. And like the seriousness of the threat from Al Qaeda, he handled them all with the same incompetency that defined his administration.

HD_Monkey · 07-10-2009, 08:59 PM

Don't really see it as a partisan issue myself. These two countries do not like us for whatever reason and they are willing to lie, cheat, etc. to do whatever it takes to gain an upper hand.

If they lied in their diplomatic meetings with the Clinton administations' delegates, then ok. Shame on them. Sometimes you have to take someone at their word. If they stick it to you later, then it's the old "fool me once shame on you", "fool me twice shame on me" scenario.

These are unreasonable people we are dealing with and will likely understand only military force.

Unfortunately, looks like the next theatre for U.S. and NATO forces will be the Korean Peninsula (again) and Japan just a stones' (missile) throw away.

**Chode** · 07-10-2009, 10:49 PM

I'd say you've hit on an idea that we can all agree on. In the case of North Korea, the inmates are definitely running the asylum. No matter how I try to bend my mind around to see the point of so many North Korean actions, I just can't find motives that make sense to me.

07-06-2009, 05:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chode TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,280 OS: Windows XP Pro	North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour North Korea continues to engage in behavior that seems strange to say the least. For the past two weeks, the Kang Nam 1 has pursued a meandering, 10 knot course in the China Sea, while being shadowed by a U.S. destroyer. Some analysts believe that the ship is carrying conventional arms for Myanmar, some think its only purpose is to confuse and piss off America. You can read differing analyses at Military.com and GlobalSecurity.org. __________________ Sweet!

07-06-2009, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jason Faugh a ballagh Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pasco, FL Posts: 8,482 OS: Windows Vista My System Blog Entries: 2	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour Did they ever file the missile towards Hawaii on the 4th? I haven't seen it on any of the websites. __________________ Posting Tips \| Advice for New People \| Common Fixes \| Agus na damnaithe fágtha gan focal Glaoigh ormsa i measc na naomh

07-06-2009, 07:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,057 OS: XP Pro My System	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour Reminds me of this joke: A cop is watching a roadside bar at the edge of town just at closing time. Hoping to catch the inevitable drunk trying to begin his trek home, he's concealed just up the road away from town so he can follow the idiot. Out of the bar staggers a man in an obvious state of drunkenness. His shirt is untucked. His coat is miss-buttoned. He trips twice walking to the parking area. He drops his keys retrieving them from his pants. Tries to open a car only to realize its not his. He clearly has forgot where he parked so he scans the entire lot. Finally, noticing his car he bounces pinball style through the parked cars. The cop follows every drunken move. Knowing for sure he'll make an arrest and meet his monthly goal. The drunk finally gets to his car. Starts the engine and turns on the wipers even though it is not raining. He turns them off and then the lights come on. Into reverse he goes - but its forward to get to the exit. Now at the exit he first signals left (toward town) then changes his mind and signals right - away from town and toward the waiting patrol car. As he passes, the cop pulls out to follow and notices that he's not speeding, he's not veering across the lanes, in fact he's obeying every law. After a few miles of this the cop decides to pull him over anyway. He approaches the car and asks the driver to get out. Driver: "Is there a problem officer?" Officer: "I think you're drunk." Driver: "I beg to differ. I haven't had anything to drink tonight." Officer: "That can't be true. I saw you in the parking lot and you were clearly drunk. How can this be? Please explain." Driver: "That's easy. I'm the designated decoy." __________________ If there are lawyers or politicians involved, logic may be a very poor tool for reaching a conclusion.

07-07-2009, 01:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,440 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour I like that one :D However we are watching their ports... if other ships leave we have intel on... this ship is just one that the media has latched onto __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

07-10-2009, 01:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
machinetech Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 36 OS: XP Pro sp3 Server 2000 sp4	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour It is a test from North Korea, and Iran for that matter, for President Obama. They see him as weak and submissive. They can get away with things that a President with serious National security goals, would not let them get away with.

07-10-2009, 07:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 19,673 OS: XP Professional	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour The facts of the case are that the real deception with nuclear weapons started when Bill Clinton trusted them without verification and they lied to him about building strategic weapons and he bought their story hook, line, and sucker....err, I mean sinker, while they continued to build nuclear weapons. Bush picked up a gaggle of issues from your friend Slick Willy. __________________ ---------- I don't receive email notifications of replies to subscribed threads. (Internet provider policy) Therefore, if I don't respond to your post within 24 hours, please send me a reminder PM and include the link to your thread.

07-10-2009, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
HD_Monkey Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 367 OS: XP x64 SP2 My System	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour Don't really see it as a partisan issue myself. These two countries do not like us for whatever reason and they are willing to lie, cheat, etc. to do whatever it takes to gain an upper hand. If they lied in their diplomatic meetings with the Clinton administations' delegates, then ok. Shame on them. Sometimes you have to take someone at their word. If they stick it to you later, then it's the old "fool me once shame on you", "fool me twice shame on me" scenario. These are unreasonable people we are dealing with and will likely understand only military force. Unfortunately, looks like the next theatre for U.S. and NATO forces will be the Korean Peninsula (again) and Japan just a stones' (missile) throw away. __________________

07-10-2009, 10:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chode TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,280 OS: Windows XP Pro	Re: North Korea's Magical Mystery Tour I'd say you've hit on an idea that we can all agree on. In the case of North Korea, the inmates are definitely running the asylum. No matter how I try to bend my mind around to see the point of so many North Korean actions, I just can't find motives that make sense to me. __________________ Sweet!