Obama signs strongest anti-smoking measure ever

Zealex · 06-22-2009, 01:13 PM

http://www.optimum.net/News/AP/Article?articleId=575683

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President Barack Obama has signed the strongest anti-smoking measure ever, calling it an extraordinary accomplishment that will help keep children from getting hooked on cigarettes.

Discuss?

**djaburg** · 06-23-2009, 10:08 AM

As a non-smoker I could give two craps about what happens to big tobacco, however, I do have an issue with our government trying to get their hooks in to everything. They're going after guns, tobacco, and what's next, alcohol?

**Drew1369** · 06-23-2009, 11:36 AM

hence the ATF dj :P

However I'm am worried about the precedence this is setting... they have nationalized two auto companies, several banks, and now tobacco... threats have been raised when gas was skyrocketing about nationalizing the oil industry...

**djaburg** · 06-23-2009, 04:03 PM

Of course I'm very aware of the BATF, but my comment was a bit sarcastic since two of the three are already under attack! I also agree about the gubmint getting their hands on the various markets they've already entered. Again, as common sense would dictate, if they can't manage themselves, what comfort do we have that they can manage things they have even less experience with. This, to me, is the real critical limitation to Obama's previous national political experience. Two years is not enough. He's advocating we get rid of GITMO without the benefit of ANY kind of military or foreign relations experience. You don't fight savages with diplomacy, they don't respond to it. They only respond to a like or greater threat.

06-23-2009, 10:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
djaburg TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,312 OS: XP SP3/Vista/7 Server 2K/2K3/2K8	Re: Obama signs strongest anti-smoking measure ever As a non-smoker I could give two craps about what happens to big tobacco, however, I do have an issue with our government trying to get their hooks in to everything. They're going after guns, tobacco, and what's next, alcohol? __________________ Computers make it easier to do a lot of things, but most of the things they make it easier to do don't need to be done. The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery.

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Drew1369 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,406 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Obama signs strongest anti-smoking measure ever hence the ATF dj :P However I'm am worried about the precedence this is setting... they have nationalized two auto companies, several banks, and now tobacco... threats have been raised when gas was skyrocketing about nationalizing the oil industry... __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

06-23-2009, 04:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
djaburg TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,312 OS: XP SP3/Vista/7 Server 2K/2K3/2K8	Re: Obama signs strongest anti-smoking measure ever Of course I'm very aware of the BATF, but my comment was a bit sarcastic since two of the three are already under attack! I also agree about the gubmint getting their hands on the various markets they've already entered. Again, as common sense would dictate, if they can't manage themselves, what comfort do we have that they can manage things they have even less experience with. This, to me, is the real critical limitation to Obama's previous national political experience. Two years is not enough. He's advocating we get rid of GITMO without the benefit of ANY kind of military or foreign relations experience. You don't fight savages with diplomacy, they don't respond to it. They only respond to a like or greater threat. __________________ Computers make it easier to do a lot of things, but most of the things they make it easier to do don't need to be done. The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery.