Oscars

bry623 · 02-23-2009, 06:25 AM

OK, So the stupid Oscars are on last night. Pretty much knew that Slumdog and that OD Joker guy would win (BTW, Fat Kate Winslett is much hotter than the skinny version). So obviously I am not going to watch it. I mean, if I wanted to watch a bunch of liberals rewarding themselves, I would watch the DNC or C-Span's coverage of Congress.

But it was late, and there was nothing on, so the I tuned in to watch best Actor. Sean Penn. I loved him in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. He was great in I am Sam. I even enjoyed Colors.
But, I knew he was a loose cannon and that he would spew something out. I believe it is totally inappropriate to turn the Oscars political.

Way to go Michael Moore lite.

**SABL** · 02-23-2009, 11:34 AM

Hi Bry

Hope you had a good time watching the Oscars. You must have really been bored!! I have no interest in Hollywood.

Turning political is only the next step..... commercialisation has been around for a long time with the subtle exposure of name-brands.

Did any awards go to a person with real talent?? All it takes today is to have the right (augmented) body parts and to be in the clique. IMHO all the pros are either retired or dead.

Maybe it wasn't touted on the screen, but for political statement the election of a member of the SAG to the office of President was pretty wild. I won't debate his merits in office but will say he was one good actor

**simpswr** · 02-23-2009, 01:00 PM

I thought that for Sean Penn it was a pretty mild speach . . A agree wit hBry that to call ur "Conservave principle cahllenged citizens in holywood as "Commi, Homo lovers" was a bit over the top . . good to see Bry defending them!!

lolarobot · 02-23-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by simpswr

I thought that for Sean Penn it was a pretty mild speach . . A agree wit hBry that to call ur "Conservave principle cahllenged citizens in holywood as "Commi, Homo lovers" was a bit over the top . . good to see Bry defending them!!

Okay, okay, this is all I hear in my chat room and I have something to ask... if these actors got up there and preached conservative politics, would everyone be bitching? I think it is because they preach liberal politics that people hate... and, I think Sean Penn is a great actor and had a great message about the inequality and abuses that occur toward gay people.... Them mixing their acting with politics is just another medium of expression and film is certainly a reflection of society, so Sean Penn making a comment on equal rights for gays was fine and appropriate and, with no disrespect, but Heath Ledger was a great actor and has been for a long time and happened to have the flu and took an Ambien and a Seroquel and his body had a reaction and he died... it was an accident, but he deserved that award for his great acting of the joker.

I just think everyone takes this one night so seriously... so what if they want to praise each other? Movies are a great escape in life and a most beautiful form of expression that can be thought provoking and life changing or inspirational, so who cares if they congratulate each other?

And, to play devil's advocate, Rush Limbaugh has zero college degree, was a DJ of music and now spouts his conservative politics on a radio show... how is that different from Sean Penn saying he hates the war; just a different forum, right? But, I guess an Oxycontin dope fiend who dates all types of women, is a fat and slovenly pig says he loves George Bush, I guess that is okay. (P.S. I love Rush, O' Reilly, Hannity, etc.)

And, if you don't like these people's politics, don't listen. Hyprocritical... perhaps, but look at stupid Ted Nugent or that old NRA guy... he was just an actor who liked guns. Who gives a care.

Such is life.

P.S. Kate Winslet is hot.

**Canaanabolaanan** · 02-23-2009, 08:33 PM

Well said. I didn't watch the Oscars. I have little invested in it currently. I did see Sean Penn's acceptance speech though, because some circles have seen it as controversial, so I was interested. Political, sure. Inflammatory? eh... not this one. I did a little research and found some other more inflammatory remarks, though nothing I've found nonfactual.

But I like the idea that conservatives can be champions against the fairness doctrine, citing free speech. But then they hear Sean Penn talk about equal rights and gay marriage, both relevant to his movie, for which he just won the award (are you detecting its relevance yet?), during his acceptance speech of said award, and they seem to suggest it's not the time nor the place, when it clearly seemed to be both.

lolarobot · 02-23-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Canaanabolaanan

Well said. I didn't watch the Oscars. I have little invested in it currently. I did see Sean Penn's acceptance speech though, because some circles have seen it as controversial, so I was interested. Political, sure. Inflammatory? eh... not this one. I did a little research and found some other more inflammatory remarks, though nothing I've found nonfactual.

But I like the idea that conservatives can be champions against the fairness doctrine, citing free speech. But then they hear Sean Penn talk about equal rights and gay marriage, both relevant to his movie, for which he just won the award (are you detecting its relevance yet?), during his acceptance speech of said award, and they seem to suggest it's not the time nor the place, when it clearly seemed to be both.

If he got up there and said that this war is a good idea and that we should all own more guns and we should close the borders, etc. etc., they would be saying, "That Sean Penn fellow sure is clever." ha, ha. I mean I see their point... they are just actors and politics is politics, but one does not need a degree in politics to voice their opinion to anyone who wants to hear it. Guess it all depends on the issue... Shindler's List: Okay, because it discusses the Holocaust and the Jews.... Milk: Not good; promotes gay rights. Saving Private Ryan...good, talks about war. Brokeback Mountain.. bad, dudes are kissing....

So, the real hypocrites are these conservatives.... of which I am one, but don't let one night get under my skin. I appreciate the arts.

**Canaanabolaanan** · 02-23-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lolarobot

1) Milk: Not good; promotes gay rights.

2) Brokeback Mountain.. bad, dudes are kissing...

1) Yeeeey, bigotry!

2) Well, I agree with you here. I'll defend their right to live and love free, but I don't care to watch them enjoy such freedoms ;)

lolarobot · 02-23-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Canaanabolaanan

1) Yeeeey, bigotry!

2) Well, I agree with you here. I'll defend their right to live and love free, but I don't care to watch them enjoy such freedoms ;)

Funny!!! C'mon you know that Hugh Jackman was fabulous, right?

**Canaanabolaanan** · 02-23-2009, 09:29 PM

John Stewart of the Daily Show has just said as much, so vicariously, yes. I gather he was pretty good. I really hadn't seen it though.

Mcninjaguy · 02-23-2009, 09:53 PM

When I see a movie I may say that that movie should win it but I did walk into my sisters room and I saw the oscars playing and this what I said

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

and then 5 secsonds later I walked out of the room.

Why can't they make a comedy section or something
Woot go Harold and Kumar!

I saw Gran Tirismo
did that win any awards? (I have no idea neither do I care)

Wasn't Optimus Prime the best actor ever (robot sounds and applause)
Did they ever hear about shortening the oscars by getting rid of the movie clips, cuz it'll be just as boring.

I used to watch the oscars to for the clips then just change the channel when they started spewing their crap
Oscars = Norton 360!
Grammy's = Dell!
Juno's = Supermodels fighting wth Bulimia spewing!

02-23-2009, 06:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 11,692 OS: winxp pro sp2	Oscars OK, So the stupid Oscars are on last night. Pretty much knew that Slumdog and that OD Joker guy would win (BTW, Fat Kate Winslett is much hotter than the skinny version). So obviously I am not going to watch it. I mean, if I wanted to watch a bunch of liberals rewarding themselves, I would watch the DNC or C-Span's coverage of Congress. But it was late, and there was nothing on, so the I tuned in to watch best Actor. Sean Penn. I loved him in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. He was great in I am Sam. I even enjoyed Colors. But, I knew he was a loose cannon and that he would spew something out. I believe it is totally inappropriate to turn the Oscars political. Way to go Michael Moore lite. __________________ "If you aren't a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you are 50, you have no brain"

02-23-2009, 11:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
SABL Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Galena, Ohio Posts: 1,219 OS: WinXP SP3	Re: Oscars Hi Bry Hope you had a good time watching the Oscars. You must have really been bored!! I have no interest in Hollywood. Turning political is only the next step..... commercialisation has been around for a long time with the subtle exposure of name-brands. Did any awards go to a person with real talent?? All it takes today is to have the right (augmented) body parts and to be in the clique. IMHO all the pros are either retired or dead. Maybe it wasn't touted on the screen, but for political statement the election of a member of the SAG to the office of President was pretty wild. I won't debate his merits in office but will say he was one good actor

02-23-2009, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,226 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: Oscars I thought that for Sean Penn it was a pretty mild speach . . A agree wit hBry that to call ur "Conservave principle cahllenged citizens in holywood as "Commi, Homo lovers" was a bit over the top . . good to see Bry defending them!! __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-23-2009, 08:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Canaanabolaanan TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 560 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Oscars Well said. I didn't watch the Oscars. I have little invested in it currently. I did see Sean Penn's acceptance speech though, because some circles have seen it as controversial, so I was interested. Political, sure. Inflammatory? eh... not this one. I did a little research and found some other more inflammatory remarks, though nothing I've found nonfactual. But I like the idea that conservatives can be champions against the fairness doctrine, citing free speech. But then they hear Sean Penn talk about equal rights and gay marriage, both relevant to his movie, for which he just won the award (are you detecting its relevance yet?), during his acceptance speech of said award, and they seem to suggest it's not the time nor the place, when it clearly seemed to be both.

02-23-2009, 09:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Canaanabolaanan TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 560 OS: XP Pro SP3	Re: Oscars John Stewart of the Daily Show has just said as much, so vicariously, yes. I gather he was pretty good. I really hadn't seen it though.

02-23-2009, 09:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Oscars When I see a movie I may say that that movie should win it but I did walk into my sisters room and I saw the oscars playing and this what I said BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! and then 5 secsonds later I walked out of the room. Why can't they make a comedy section or something Woot go Harold and Kumar! I saw Gran Tirismo did that win any awards? (I have no idea neither do I care) Wasn't Optimus Prime the best actor ever (robot sounds and applause) Did they ever hear about shortening the oscars by getting rid of the movie clips, cuz it'll be just as boring. I used to watch the oscars to for the clips then just change the channel when they started spewing their crap Oscars = Norton 360! Grammy's = Dell! Juno's = Supermodels fighting wth Bulimia spewing!