Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team

**flipper** · 11-18-2008, 11:53 AM

SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Nov 13, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):
In yet another example of hostility towards lawful firearm owners, the Obama transition team is weeding out applicants for White House positions who own firearms themselves, or who come from firearm-owning families.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Gun-Owners-not-Welcome-Obamas/story.aspx?guid={9D659AA0-B4C5-4915-A6EB-687876F44D8B}

**-=Rousseau=-** · 11-18-2008, 11:59 AM

Maybe he fears they'll shoot him. Since owning a firearm is automatically grounds for suspicion... I suspect he may want to remove all cutlery from the White House while he's at it

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**EnglishPaul** · 11-18-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Rousseau=-

Maybe he fears they'll shoot him. Since owning a firearm is automatically grounds for suspicion... I suspect he may want to remove all cutlery from the White House while he's at it

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You racist, saying Black people don't use knives and forks!

I love the stupidity of trumped up racism claims!

**sobeit** · 11-18-2008, 03:00 PM

just because the survey asks about guns (if its even a valid survey) dont mean they are weeding out gun owners. It also asks if they have had a physical in the past year. By your logic if you would also be weeded out if you had a physical in the past year.

Its so easy to take stuff out of context when you are crying in your beer.

**Drew1369** · 11-18-2008, 04:09 PM

Its an illegal question to ask. Just like asking about religion, sexual preferense and political preferense, unless its a partisan office for the political pref questions.

**40sondacurb** · 11-18-2008, 05:19 PM

He could be trying to find gun owners to put into the white house so the NRA doesn't wine.

yustr · 11-18-2008, 07:05 PM

He's just an astute student of history - remember Cheney's wild escapade?

**flipper** · 11-18-2008, 08:09 PM

Sources: Holder is Obama's choice for attorney general

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder is President-elect Barack Obama's choice for the position of attorney general, according to two prominent Democrats involved in transition matters.

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For those that do not know, he supported the DC Gun Ban. Not looking good for gun owners. Wonder how many more this will sell now. Got to get my roommate to get his Winchester M94 soon.

**40sondacurb** · 11-18-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flipper

For those that do not know, he supported the DC Gun Ban. Not looking good for gun owners. Wonder how many more this will sell now. Got to get my roommate to get his Winchester M94 soon.

tiss the season. You've got the supreme court on your side so loosen up.

RedScott · 11-19-2008, 06:37 AM

Isn't Joe Biden a gun owner? This story smells fishy.

**sobeit** · 11-19-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RedScott

Isn't Joe Biden a gun owner? This story smells fishy.

just look at the source...

mommabear · 11-19-2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sobeit

just because the survey asks about guns (if its even a valid survey) dont mean they are weeding out gun owners. It also asks if they have had a physical in the past year. By your logic if you would also be weeded out if you had a physical in the past year.

Its so easy to take stuff out of context when you are crying in your beer.

A few more facts:

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The point of the question was not to weed out gun owners, but rather “to ensure proper registration,” as transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter has explained. ABC’s Jake Tapper further notes that “the question is not meant to be any different in scope than the one about whether the Obama Administration candidate has run afoul of any law or regulation, ever gotten a traffic ticket of more than $50 in fines, and so on.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/17/...guns-question/

Page 7 Miscellaneous

(59) Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...stionnaire.pdf

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* An estimated 34 percent of the citizens in the United States own firearms, and there are thought to be more than 200 million firearms in private hands.

* Private gun ownership is generally not subject to either licensing or registration. The private resale of guns is largely unregulated in the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...43414020070417

I think I heard that Obama will have to fill roughly 6000 positions in the government...although I assume lower level positions will actually be filled by the higher-ups he hires personally. I have no idea if all 6000 will have to fill out the same questionnaire.

Oh yeah. This is really scary for all you gun owners.

**linderman** · 11-19-2008, 07:51 PM

Biden is a firearms owner ??????????

**Chode** · 11-20-2008, 01:53 PM

This thread gets my vote for the "Shoe Scraper of the Week" award.

RedScott · 11-20-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by linderman

Biden is a firearms owner ??????????

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...e-bidens-guns/

11-18-2008, 11:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
flipper I helped the forums. Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 112 OS:	Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Nov 13, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA): In yet another example of hostility towards lawful firearm owners, the Obama transition team is weeding out applicants for White House positions who own firearms themselves, or who come from firearm-owning families. http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Gun-Owners-not-Welcome-Obamas/story.aspx?guid={9D659AA0-B4C5-4915-A6EB-687876F44D8B} __________________ People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty you need only look into a mirror.

11-18-2008, 11:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
-=Rousseau=- Biker, Geek and Jock Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nashvegas Posts: 823 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate My System	Re: Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team Maybe he fears they'll shoot him. Since owning a firearm is automatically grounds for suspicion... I suspect he may want to remove all cutlery from the White House while he's at it .

11-18-2008, 03:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 7,433 OS: windows/linux	Re: Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team just because the survey asks about guns (if its even a valid survey) dont mean they are weeding out gun owners. It also asks if they have had a physical in the past year. By your logic if you would also be weeded out if you had a physical in the past year. Its so easy to take stuff out of context when you are crying in your beer. __________________ there's been global warming since the ice age

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Drew1369 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,398 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team Its an illegal question to ask. Just like asking about religion, sexual preferense and political preferense, unless its a partisan office for the political pref questions. __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

11-18-2008, 05:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
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11-18-2008, 07:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
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11-18-2008, 08:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
flipper I helped the forums. Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 112 OS:	Re: Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team Sources: Holder is Obama's choice for attorney general WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder is President-elect Barack Obama's choice for the position of attorney general, according to two prominent Democrats involved in transition matters. --------------------- For those that do not know, he supported the DC Gun Ban. Not looking good for gun owners. Wonder how many more this will sell now. Got to get my roommate to get his Winchester M94 soon. __________________ People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty you need only look into a mirror.

11-19-2008, 06:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
RedScott Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 496 OS: Windows XP	Re: Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team Isn't Joe Biden a gun owner? This story smells fishy.

11-19-2008, 07:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
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11-20-2008, 01:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chode TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,280 OS: Windows XP Pro	Re: Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team This thread gets my vote for the "Shoe Scraper of the Week" award. __________________ Sweet!