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Join Date: Jun 2008
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i need a little help figuring out this one
Since about 2002 and each year following oil industries have been boasting about record profits each year. and its shown in the slowdown of the economy, because especially in america almost everything is tied to oil/gas. i saw this article and it kind of made me laugh and remember some of the downfalls of capitalism, now that oil is finally falling and the consumers are getting a much needed break maybe economy will pick back up a little. with the price of gas dropping so does copper and cost to move heavy equipment maybe more people will start buying/building houses again, or maybe tourism will pick back up. i just dont understand why OPEC wants to stand in and try to throw on the breaks when it comes prices dropping in favor of the consumer, except to keep record profits from dissapearing from their pockets. and yes i do understand that if prices plummit it could result in a crash of the oil industry but maybe it would be a good thing and allow newer companies to step in and pick up.
Oil prices fall as financial turmoil goes global Monday October 6, 1:06 pm ET By Stevenson Jacobs, AP Business Writer Oil falls below $90 per barrel on fear that financial turmoil will curb global crude demand NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil prices sunk below $90 a barrel Monday for the first time in eight months, a key price support level, on expectations that a widening financial maelstrom will drastically reduce global demand for energy. ADVERTISEMENT Crude's decline accelerated for a fourth day as investors appeared to give up hope that the government's $700 billion rescue plan would provide a quick fix for the stumbling U.S. economy. Light, sweet crude for November delivery fell $4.81 to $89.07 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, after earlier dipping to $88.57, the lowest level since Feb. 8. On Friday, the November contract lost 9 cents to close at $93.88 a barrel. A significantly stronger dollar also weighed on prices. Oil prices have tumbled nearly 40 percent since peaking at $147.27 a barrel on July 11. The drop came as world stock markets plunged amid growing investor anxiety that the U.S. bad debt crisis is enveloping Europe. Germany announced Sunday a bailout package totaling $69 billion for Hypo Real Estate, the country's second-biggest commercial property lender, part of a scramble by European governments to save failing banks. As anxiety deepened, the Dow Jones industrial average fell below 10,000 for the first time in four years. "The market is finally acknowledging that this credit crisis is a global phenomenon and that will equate to lower world oil demand in the future," said Phil Flynn, analyst at Alaron Trading Corp. in Chicago. "People thought the crisis would be contained to the U.S. and we'd see oil demand in China and India continue to grow. Now that just doesn't seem possible." The widening scope of the crisis has forced consumers and businesses everywhere to cut back on fuel consumption. In India, domestic oil product sales totaled 2.41 million barrels per day in August, the lowest level this year, while Japan's oil demand fell by 8.4 percent in the same month, according to Barclays Capital research. In the same month. In the U.S., the drop in crude prices continued to drag down pump prices. A gallon of regular shed 2 cents to a new national average of $3.504, according to auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express. In other signs the meltdown is spreading, Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme said Sunday that France's BNP Paribas SA had committed to taking a 75 percent stake in Fortis NV. British treasury chief Alistair Darling said he was ready to take "pretty big steps that we wouldn't take in ordinary times" to help the country weather the credit crunch. Oil market traders are now watching to see if oil prices will sink to the next key technical level of $85 a barrel, the price for a barrel of crude when it began its historic run-up late last year. "If we take out that area, we could see a major washout of this market," Flynn said. "We could be talking $50 or $60 oil." If that happens, analysts say the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries may to cut production and keep prices from falling further. Iranian Oil Minister Gholam Hossien Nozari on Saturday called on fellow OPEC members not to pump too much oil. Traders were also watching currency movements as investors tend to buy commodities like oil to defend against dollar weakness and a hedge against inflation, but sell crude as the U.S. currency strengthens. "With Europe starting to be in panic mode, the dollar is gaining by default of the euro weakening and this continues to be a negative factor for commodities," said Olivier Jakob of Petromatrix in Switzerland. The 15-nation euro fell to $1.3478 in Monday trading from $1.3774 late Friday. In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 13.7 cents to $2.525 a gallon, while gasoline prices dropped 12.33 cents to $2.105 a gallon. Natural gas for November delivery fell 35.9 cents to $6.999 per 1,000 cubic feet. In London, November Brent crude fell $4.72 to $85.53 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange. Associated Press Writers Pablo Gorondi in Budapest, Hungary and Alex Kennedy in Singapore contributed to this report. |
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Re: i need a little help figuring out this one
oil and commodities are deep down , you can't buy when you don't have money , less demand , price falls.
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Re: i need a little help figuring out this one
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Except for interest rates it seems. Loans tough to get, banks raise interest rates. But I guess it only matters how much it costs to borrow from each other and from the Fed. Not what rate I get on a home loan.
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Re: i need a little help figuring out this one
I might suggest that speculation rather than actual demand might be a driving force in oil prices, but then all of those "Market Purists" on the forum would get upset. Next thing you know, I'd be rehashing a whole bunch of my old posts. Man! That's so tedious!
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