mimo2005

Struggling with mounting debt and rising prices, faced with the toughest economic times since the early 1990s, Americans are selling prized possessions online and at flea markets at alarming rates.


Full article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080429/..._out_the_attic

yustr

Where are all the Bush apologists now?

mimo2005

At the flea market.....

Drew1369

Yup... its Bush's fault people didn't have savings account... its Bush's fault that you decided to invest your money into high risk investments... its Bush's fault you lost your job...

Because we all know the President is the sole power of the government...

mimo2005

The Bush Legacy: $20 - $120



So what will we remember of George W. Bush?

* September 11, 2001
* The Patriot Act
* The Afghan War
* The Iraqi Quagmire
* Torture
* Water Boarding
* Abu Ghraib
* Falsified intelligence
* Suppression of climate science
* Sinking economy
* Soaring gas prices
* Sinking public opinion
* The Katrina debacle
* Cheney shooting someone in the face
* Wire Tapping
* Loss of Habeas Corpus
* Veto of stem cell bill
* Inflation
* Fiat printing money/Dollar devaluation
* Rising unemployment
* Firing of U.S. Attorneys
* Alberto Gonzalez
* Scooter Libby
* Enron
* Tyco
* Blackwater
* Bear stearns/CFC
* Deleted Emails
* Faith Based Initiatives

he'll be remembered as one of the worst presidents in American history and the one who bankrupted our country , is that enough for ya?

Drew1369

See... you think that all those are bad... I don't see all as bad... some yes... but all, no. I will divulge alittle more when I get home from work

zineeditor

@Mimo2005
You forgot one thing. He looks like Alfred E. Neuman.
I'm counting the months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds for that bozo to be out of office. Then start worrying about the next one.

-=Rousseau=-

You honestly believe that Bush is responsible for the supposed use of torture? Not everything goes straight to the top, you've got to find evidence on that one before filing accusations. Falsified intelligence? Wrong intelligence can be an option... Not always a binary - lying or correct. Suppression of climate science? Big f'n woop. Al's done enough blabbering about it all to do us all in. Bush is responsible for Enron? What planet are you from? I think Enron was caused by greedy executives... Oh, and Bush can do diddly squat as far as controlling the economy is concerned. The Fed controls the economy much more than the Federal Government, and the Fed is very independent. Bush isn't the chairman of the Fed BOG - nor does he actually have infinite power over the Federal government...

Basically, 75% of the stuff on that list is not at all related to Bush's doings, but to the many other factors going on. The president of the US does not set oil prices - OPEC and the oil companies do. And OPEC has the stronger control... The factors behind the rising prices is increased demand - India and China are quickly rising in their use of oil - the US demand isn't shrinking either. Add to that the fact of peak oil. The war may have had some effect in rising the cost of oil as well, but any response to 9/11 would have had the same result - sad truth is, most of the known terrorists reside in the Middle East where the oil is. OPEC is controlled by middle eastern nations, which would explain that effect. (I can't imagine a response to 9/11 that did not entail some violence. Diplomacy does not work so well with people who are willing to fly themselves into buildings in order to kill you.)

Not that I'm a fan of Bush, but it's much too easy and socially popular to bash him these days. Accusing him of causing problems that are for the most part out of his control is silly. If he signed a letter of some sort or otherwise acted in authorizing torture, then accusing him of being responsible makes sense - but otherwise it is just a baseless accusation. Same with the other items...

Judging by most of today's students, he will most likely just be forgotten within 20-30 years... Like most people know a lot about Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, or any of the other presidents besides Clinton, Reagan, Lincoln, and the few other obviously huge historical figures .

mimo2005

He denied it at first , and admited finally that he signed the ok to torture people.
He is the one who said so , not me.

simpswr

. . and you beleived him . . .

mimo2005

Reverse psychology?

bry623

Torture is not the topic here people.....

It is sad about that. I have been blaming it on gas prices for years.

simpswr

W agreed to allow torture so that gas prices would go up?? . . . pure genius!!

EnglishPaul

I thought gas prices going up was torture!

simpswr

Not for the OIl Producing countires . .

EnglishPaul

Like Texas???

Where is the Bush travesty, sorry, dynasty from again?

simpswr

Connecticut . . . We do not claim him down here . . Barbara, yes . . W . . not even

yustr

Hey watch it bud, I resemble that remark!

beefers1

The government IS to blame, but I think the increasing desire for material goods by people (commercialization), and the spontaneous spending of money ("impulse buys") are definitely the people's own fault. I mean, how many times a day do people see ads telling them to buy anything from a piece of jewelery to a car? Simplicity is the key to life.

Chode

The thing about the oil boom is that it doesn't benefit everyone equally. Sure, people directly in the business or providing support services are making tons of money, but those bucks don't necessarily end up in the pockets of waiters, busboys or even most local business. Big ticket merchants (builders, landscapers, carpet & tile, etc.) benefit, but most of us just feel the pinch of higher fuel, food, and transportation costs.

You're on the money with the Bush travesty, and I don't think you'll see the Republican's carry the state in the upcoming elections. If it looks like crap and smells like crap, you just scrape it off your boots.