Airlines in Trouble

mimo2005 · 04-03-2008, 05:49 PM

A slowing economy and high fuel prices appear to have killed off tiny ATA Airlines, Aloha Airlines, and Champion Air. A big pile of cash will keep the big airlines from that same fate, for now.

Source:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080403/airlines_in_trouble.html

3 airlines gone!

**sobeit** · 04-04-2008, 08:31 AM

and its going to get worse...

mimo2005 · 04-07-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sobeit

and its going to get worse...

Number 4 !!!

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yustr · 04-07-2008, 06:18 PM

Here's a radical idea: change your business practices before you go out of business.

One change: sell tickets ahead of time for one seat on one flight. You miss the flight - not our problem. Not enough tickets sold - flight canceled, here's your money back, try again tomorrow. And before you say it will never work remember that is how they do it everywhere else; ball games, movie theater, Broadway. Imagine going up to the ticket booth at Fenway Park and saying: my meeting ran a little later than I thought, can you give me tickets to tomorrow's game instead of these?

Its the reason they give discounts for early purchase - so they'll have an idea how many seat will have butts in them. And we all know that 90% of the "mechanical troubles" that cause flights to be canceled are really just not enough seats filled to make the flight profitable. Just say so - but there's rules against that...sheesh.

Here's another novel idea: who cares? Business will adjust. Trains will flourish on short/medium runs, web conferencing will actually be made to work, and someone will step up and start an airline with the philosophy: It costs me X to fly this plane from A to B. It can hold 150 people so the price for each seat is X/150. When it's full - off we go. As it is now, I bet every one of the 50 people actually on it paid a different fare.

Second idea:

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mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Airlines in Trouble A slowing economy and high fuel prices appear to have killed off tiny ATA Airlines, Aloha Airlines, and Champion Air. A big pile of cash will keep the big airlines from that same fate, for now. Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080403/airlines_in_trouble.html 3 airlines gone! __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

04-04-2008, 08:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 7,433 OS: windows/linux	Re: Airlines in Trouble and its going to get worse... __________________ there's been global warming since the ice age

04-07-2008, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,047 OS: XP Pro My System	Re: Airlines in Trouble Here's a radical idea: change your business practices before you go out of business. One change: sell tickets ahead of time for one seat on one flight. You miss the flight - not our problem. Not enough tickets sold - flight canceled, here's your money back, try again tomorrow. And before you say it will never work remember that is how they do it everywhere else; ball games, movie theater, Broadway. Imagine going up to the ticket booth at Fenway Park and saying: my meeting ran a little later than I thought, can you give me tickets to tomorrow's game instead of these? Its the reason they give discounts for early purchase - so they'll have an idea how many seat will have butts in them. And we all know that 90% of the "mechanical troubles" that cause flights to be canceled are really just not enough seats filled to make the flight profitable. Just say so - but there's rules against that...sheesh. Here's another novel idea: who cares? Business will adjust. Trains will flourish on short/medium runs, web conferencing will actually be made to work, and someone will step up and start an airline with the philosophy: It costs me X to fly this plane from A to B. It can hold 150 people so the price for each seat is X/150. When it's full - off we go. As it is now, I bet every one of the 50 people actually on it paid a different fare. Second idea: __________________ If there are lawyers or politicians involved, logic may be a very poor tool for reaching a conclusion.