Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

mimo2005 · 03-26-2008, 01:25 PM

WESTON, Wis. — An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html

The mother believes the girl could still be resurrected, the police chief said.

**sobeit** · 03-26-2008, 05:34 PM

I say life in prison for murder.

**40sondacurb** · 03-26-2008, 07:20 PM

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The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

how about signs that if they got an infected paper cut the parents would keep praying until the kids hand turned green.

**Drew1369** · 03-26-2008, 11:53 PM

Thats sick...

Gave gave the knowledge to say... "HEY!!! Take her to the doctors you freaking idiots!!!"

mimo2005 · 03-27-2008, 12:20 AM

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

Perhaps you didn't notice the dead girl. Abuse? How about homicide , sir?

**Chode** · 03-27-2008, 09:33 PM

"The girl's death remains under investigation and the findings will be forwarded to the district attorney to review for possible charges, the chief said."

Just how long do you suppose the Keystone Kops and the D.A. (pun intended) are going to need to investigate this one?

**EnglishPaul** · 03-28-2008, 01:03 AM

No, it's not the parents fault. It's God's fault for not healing her. Perhaps God wanted her dead, which is why she had diabetes. Perhaps the family had done something to encur God's wrath, and paid the price.
And we all know that doctors are just playing God, and are plain evil.

**sobeit** · 03-29-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EnglishPaul

No, it's not the parents fault. It's God's fault for not healing her. Perhaps God wanted her dead, which is why she had diabetes. Perhaps the family had done something to encur God's wrath, and paid the price.
And we all know that doctors are just playing God, and are plain evil.

"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise."

mimo2005 · 04-01-2008, 04:39 PM

Parents Indicted in Faith-Healing Death

More info:
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/parents...01132809990001

Manslaughter , what a joke ! That was MURDER !

**Drew1369** · 04-01-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mimo2005

Manslaughter , what a joke ! That was MURDER !

Now you know I find this as sick as the next... but remember, murder is an intentional act... they wern't intentionally trying to kill their kid.

Just because you think its murder, its up to the prosocuting attorney to best decide the charge that he/she believes is going to get a conviction with a jury of their peers.

Remember, a person is smart... people are dumb panicky idiots.

**speedster123** · 04-02-2008, 04:01 AM

sounds like a tom cruise deal

**vladimirb** · 04-02-2008, 04:27 AM

Some ppl are really sick in the brain. what did they had on their mind? Pray will help!? Yeah, like allways...

**sobeit** · 04-02-2008, 08:33 AM

if parents who accidentally leave their kids in a hot car can be prosecuted, then those who refuse to take their kids to the doctors should be prosecuted.

**Drew1369** · 04-02-2008, 01:34 PM

They are being prosecuted

**Chode** · 04-02-2008, 02:58 PM

Maybe it's time to re-examine the relevant statutes being used to prosecute these people. I sure don't think that 7 years or so in the clink is nearly harsh enough. Hey, here's an idea! How about a return to trial by ordeal. We could throw them off a tall building, and if an angel carries them gently to earth, well, I guess we'd have to say they are innocent. On the other hand if they go splat, we send their benighted church a bill for the cleanup.

yustr · 04-02-2008, 06:50 PM

It really goes to why do we hold religious belief higher than moral belief? They'll argue that they cannot be prosecuted because they were following the tenants of their church - however misguided. And they'll probably get off. But why? If I say my religion demands that I sacrifice a virgin on the edge of a volcano can I do that? Of course not. But who's to judge that my religion is inferior to yours? It seems it's simply a matter of how many followers mine has versus yours? It has nothing to do with who's right. How ludicrous is that?

mimo2005 · 04-03-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yustr

It really goes to why do we hold religious belief higher than moral belief? They'll argue that they cannot be prosecuted because they were following the tenants of their church - however misguided. And they'll probably get off. But why? If I say my religion demands that I sacrifice a virgin on the edge of a volcano can I do that? Of course not. But who's to judge that my religion is inferior to yours? It seems it's simply a matter of how many followers mine has versus yours? It has nothing to do with who's right. How ludicrous is that?

Exactly , now we will have muslims fathers killing their daughters because they have a boyfriend ...and ...and they will ask for a less sentence , for religion excuses.

**Drew1369** · 04-03-2008, 01:38 PM

these people aren't asking for a lesser sentences

Rodomantade · 04-10-2008, 01:53 PM

Praying is something one does from the side of a hospital bed. Lock them up and throw away the key.

**FreoHeaveho** · 04-15-2008, 08:17 PM

gross negligence causing death = manslaughter 1st degree.

03-26-2008, 01:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help WESTON, Wis. — An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html The mother believes the girl could still be resurrected, the police chief said. __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

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sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 7,433 OS: windows/linux	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help I say life in prison for murder. __________________ there's been global warming since the ice age

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Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,689 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help Thats sick... Gave gave the knowledge to say... "HEY!!! Take her to the doctors you freaking idiots!!!" __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

03-27-2008, 12:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help "They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see." Perhaps you didn't notice the dead girl. Abuse? How about homicide , sir? __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

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Chode TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,280 OS: Windows XP Pro	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help "The girl's death remains under investigation and the findings will be forwarded to the district attorney to review for possible charges, the chief said." Just how long do you suppose the Keystone Kops and the D.A. (pun intended) are going to need to investigate this one? __________________ Sweet!

03-28-2008, 01:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
EnglishPaul Still no avatar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,314 OS: XP SP2	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help No, it's not the parents fault. It's God's fault for not healing her. Perhaps God wanted her dead, which is why she had diabetes. Perhaps the family had done something to encur God's wrath, and paid the price. And we all know that doctors are just playing God, and are plain evil.

04-01-2008, 04:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11,142 OS: xp	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help Parents Indicted in Faith-Healing Death More info: http://news.aol.com/story/_a/parents...01132809990001 Manslaughter , what a joke ! That was MURDER ! __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

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speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York Posts: 5,590 OS: xp pro SP3	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help sounds like a tom cruise deal __________________

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vladimirb Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Banja Luka, Serb Republic Posts: 4,370 OS: xp pro sp3, 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Server 2003, Server 2008, VMware vCenter Server My System	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help Some ppl are really sick in the brain. what did they had on their mind? Pray will help!? Yeah, like allways...

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sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 7,433 OS: windows/linux	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help if parents who accidentally leave their kids in a hot car can be prosecuted, then those who refuse to take their kids to the doctors should be prosecuted. __________________ there's been global warming since the ice age

04-02-2008, 01:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,689 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help They are being prosecuted __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

04-02-2008, 02:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chode TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,280 OS: Windows XP Pro	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help Maybe it's time to re-examine the relevant statutes being used to prosecute these people. I sure don't think that 7 years or so in the clink is nearly harsh enough. Hey, here's an idea! How about a return to trial by ordeal. We could throw them off a tall building, and if an angel carries them gently to earth, well, I guess we'd have to say they are innocent. On the other hand if they go splat, we send their benighted church a bill for the cleanup. __________________ Sweet!

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yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 6,318 OS: XP Pro My System	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help It really goes to why do we hold religious belief higher than moral belief? They'll argue that they cannot be prosecuted because they were following the tenants of their church - however misguided. And they'll probably get off. But why? If I say my religion demands that I sacrifice a virgin on the edge of a volcano can I do that? Of course not. But who's to judge that my religion is inferior to yours? It seems it's simply a matter of how many followers mine has versus yours? It has nothing to do with who's right. How ludicrous is that? __________________ Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. A.C. Clark Don't believe everything you think.

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Drew1369 Moderator Relaxation Room Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 3,689 OS: Win7 Ultimate	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help these people aren't asking for a lesser sentences __________________ We humans have a primal urge to kill because, thanks to natural selection, all the homo sapiens who didn't have a primal urge to kill, were themselves killed. http://obamaclock.org/

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Rodomantade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15 OS: XP	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help Praying is something one does from the side of a hospital bed. Lock them up and throw away the key.

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FreoHeaveho TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,344 OS: Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bit My System	Re: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help gross negligence causing death = manslaughter 1st degree. __________________ PC Wizard-VGA 2009 Charts-Power Supply Info-Multi/Single Rail PSU?-Speedfan-Driver Sweeper